From mailman-owner at lists.groogroo.com Sun Oct 1 06:52:10 2000 From: mailman-owner at lists.groogroo.com (mailman-owner@lists.groogroo.com) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] lists.groogroo.com mailing list memberships reminder Message-ID: <20001001115210.1ADFC1BB16@slots.com> This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your lists.groogroo.com mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list. You can visit the URLs to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such changes. 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Salute Daria From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Tue Oct 3 20:22:21 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Tabling Message-ID: Hey, everyone! Here is the schedule for this week. We may or may not have a table out on Thursday (depending if we can have one), but please let me know if anyone can work the hours for which we have noone. Election is coming up. If you've been waiting to do something active this is it. We need AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AT THE TABLE. Thank you Wed. 10-11 Tracy 11-12 Daria, Thad 12-1 Ilan, Kyle 1-2 ? 2-3 ? Thursday 10-11 Sonu, Kyle 11-12 Sara, Jocelyn, Kyle 12-1 Sara, Robert 1-2 ? 2-1 Daria Friday 10-11 Ryan, Andrew 11-12 John, Andrew 12-1 Ilan 1-2 Steve 2-3 ? Please, let me know if there is a time you'd like to come in and help out. If there are any questions or concerns about anything, feel free to call/e-mail me. P.S. We'll be selling tickets on the quad for the trip to the Super Rally in Chicago on Oct. 10th. Cheers Daria From bhalla at uiuc.edu Tue Oct 3 20:36:10 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: Michael Moore Tuerday PM on "Politically Incorrect"...and Other News] Message-ID: <200010040136.UAA03969@a-night-at-the-opera> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: unknown sender Subject: Michael Moore Tuerday PM on "Politically Incorrect"...and Other News] Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:47:46 -0400 Size: 6185 Url: http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/mailman/archive/nader-uiuc/attachments/20001003/399527ec/attachment.mht From bhalla at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 4 12:10:45 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: [illinoisballot] It's official: WE ARE ON THE BALLOT Message-ID: <200010041710.MAA09775@a-night-at-the-opera> ------- Forwarded Message >To: illinoisballot@egroups.com >From: "Dan Johnson-Weinberger" >Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:57:49 -0000 >Subject: [illinoisballot] It's official: WE ARE ON THE BALLOT > >The State Board of Elections just voted 6-0 to place Ralph Nader and >Winona LaDuke on the November Illinois ballot!! > >At 10:00 this morning, the board disposed of the pending Democratic >objections to Nader's appearance on the ballot. Today's action was >more a formality than a surprise, as the Democrats has said they >didn't have any chance to take Nader off the ballot last week, but it >sure is nice to have the official, legal word that Nader will >definitely appear on the November ballot. > >After we had more than 150 different volunteers come in to defend our >signature from the onslaught of the Democratic machine, we were able >to save at least 27,698 valid signatures, more than enough to pass >the 25,000 mark that Illinois state law requires. (And how about >lowering the number to create a more inclusive system? What are the >Dems and GOP legislators afraid of? A little political competition?) > >Congratulations to all the volunteers who worked tirelessly for more >than three weeks to defend the signatures, and a huge thank you to >the volunteers who collected the 39,000 signatures in the first place! > >We'll be holding a press conference at 11:30 this morning outside the >Thompson Center. Hope to see you there. > >Dan Johnson-Weinberger >Nader 2000 General Committee, Inc. >312.588.0974 >59 East Van Buren, 14th floor >Chicago, IL 60615 > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >illinoisballot-unsubscribe@egroups.com > ------- End of Forwarded Message From levchenk at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 4 15:00:41 2000 From: levchenk at uiuc.edu (Kirill Levchenko) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] UIUC Students for Nader website Message-ID: We now have a website: http://www.uiuc.edu/ro/SfN/ Note that the last part is case sensitive. Please email any comments or suggestions to me. Thanks. -- Kirill Levchenko From rwrichar at students.uiuc.edu Wed Oct 4 16:13:00 2000 From: rwrichar at students.uiuc.edu (ryan wilcox richardson) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Stuff to do Friday? Message-ID: To whom it may concern: This Friday, I-Vote (Volunteer Illini Project's voting contingent) is having some sort of "Last Chance Luau" at the Bevier Hall parking lot next to the Morrow Plots from 6-10 PM. I guess some of the local candidates will be there, and they're going to serve food and pop and such. I really don't know much about the event, but it might be a good opportunity to spread the Good Nader Word. I won't be able to be there because I'm going home for the weekend, but if anyone wanted to go, it could be interesting. Peace, Ryan From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Wed Oct 4 18:00:31 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Thursday Message-ID: Schedule for Thursday (tomorrow) 10-11 Sonu, Kyle 11-12 Sara, Jocelyn, Kyle 12-1 Sara, Robert 1-2 ? 2-1 Daria All right, we really need someone to volunteer from 1-2 tomorrow at the table. Sara and Robert, I'll stop by to make sure there is someone there, so you can go to class, and if there is noone there, we'll have to finish tabling early. :( All right, thanks for everything. By the way, we are sold out of tickets (except for people who are on the waiting list, and if you are you need to pay for those tickets, or talk to Ilan and let him know that you are definitely going). Well, cheers and salutations, Daria Daria From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Wed Oct 4 22:39:52 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Rain and how that might affect tomorrow Message-ID: Hey, everyone! Most of you might have noticed it is crazy-pooring outside. Of course, sometimes that means that it will stop soon, however, other times that means it will not stop soon... So, who knows? Nonetheless, if it is raining tomorrow we will have a team of specialists (you know who you are) trying to get us a table inside the Union. If that doesn't happen, we will not be outside, battling the forces of nature, trying to get the word out. So, if you are scheduled to be at the table, please, and it's raining, please check to see if we are inside the Union (that would be the South-West side, if my calculations are correct). And if you are not scheduled, but have nothing important to do, stop by also. Thanks so much Daria From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Thu Oct 5 19:45:48 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Friday Message-ID: Hey, everybody! Well, due to weather problems around 10-11, we did not have a table today in the quad. However, I just checked the weather forecast for tomorrow and it's "partly sunny and cool". But no rain. SO, we'll have a table out on the quad today Schedule 10-11 Ryan, Andrew 11-12 John, Andrew 12-1 Ilan 1-2 Steve 2-3 ? Have a nice Friday, everyone! And a good weekend! Daria From bhalla at uiuc.edu Fri Oct 6 00:06:18 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:49 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: What it Means to be Green Message-ID: <200010060506.AAA25410@a-night-at-the-opera> ------- Forwarded Message http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/ San Francisco Chronicle September 20, 2000 WHAT IT MEANS TO BE GREEN Don't Vote for the Lesser of 2 Evils -- Vote Green By Lisa Martinovic Those of us from C-U who are going up to the Super-Rally have a chance to help out at the event! Josh, a volunteer coordinator in the Chicago office, asked if some of us could assist with bucket passing to collect contributions during the rally. This may or may not be possible since our bus will likely be arriving about 7 p.m., but I told him I'd spread the word and give folks a chance to volunteer. If some of us on these lists are driving up and will be at the rally earlier in the evening, you're also welcome to volunteer - you can call the state Nader office (toll-free - 1-866-NADER-4U) to set things up. They're especially hoping for people who can come to a 4 p.m. orientation session. BTW, the link in the message below would make a neat flyer: http://www.voters.net/nader/chicago.htm Here's a little more info: >Nader in Chicago >Ralph Nader?s Super Rally tour hits Chicagoland next >Tuesday, 10th at the UIC Pavilion, 7:30 p.m. Recent >appearances in Portland, Oregon, Minneapolis, Seattle, >and Boston drew crowds of over 10,000 people. Imagine >anyone that would pay to hear Bush or Gore. In >Chicago, special guests/performers include Eddie >Vedder, Michael Moore, Phil Donahue, Studs Terkel, and >John Anderson. This is history, and you can be a >part of it! This weekend, Ralph needs you to hit the >streets with flyers and tickets to promote this rally. >Nader accepts no corporate money, so everything is >done by volunteers. The downtown campaign office (59 E >Van Buren, 14th floor) has a full list of community >rallies, events, and concerts going on. The office >will provide you with everything you need?flyers, >buttons, bumper stickers, signs. Grab your friends, >and go out in teams. We can canvass the whole city! >Then, the night of the event, 250 volunteers will be >needed to usher, greet, collect tickets, etc. >Interested folks should show up at the UIC Pavilion at >4:00 p.m. for training and orientation. Please call >312.588.0974 to volunteer or to get tickets. >Check this website for more info on the event: >http://www.voters.net/nader/chicago.htm From bhalla at uiuc.edu Fri Oct 6 08:26:24 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: Nader surges in post debate poll Message-ID: <200010061326.IAA28841@a-night-at-the-opera> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 6918 Url: http://lists.cu.groogroo.com/mailman/archive/nader-uiuc/attachments/20001006/ed2cbf6b/attachment.mht From jbuell at uiuc.edu Sun Oct 8 12:11:07 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Greens office grand opening TOMORROW (10/9), 5 p.m. Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001008120805.00b82de0@students.uiuc.edu> Hi friends in Students for Nader, Please turn out to celebrate the grand opening of our Prairie Greens campaign awareness office in Church Street Square, downtown Champaign, tomorrow (Monday, 10/9) at 5 p.m. ... and bring a friend or two! The address: 206 N. Randolph St. (corner of Church and Randolph). Why so soon? 1 - generate press to coincide with last day of voter reg 10/10; we're after the UNlikely voter; 2 - help promote the 10/10/10,000 Nader super-rally; 3 - we're already paying rent and gotta get those doors open; 4 - it's just 4 weeks to Election Day. Here's a copy of the press release that was faxed to the News-Gazette, Octopus, Daily Illini, WILL radio, WCIA 3 TV and WICD 15 TV yesterday. We'll follow up during the day tomorrow by dropping in to each of their offices. Jim 390-6368 (mobile) -------------------- LOCAL GREENS OPEN CAMPAIGN AWARENESS OFFICE WITH 10/9 OPEN HOUSE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contacts: Jim Buell, 217-390-6368 Zach Miller, 217-390-1865 Prairie Greens of East Central Illinois http://www.prairienet.org/greens The Prairie Greens of East Central Illinois will celebrate the opening of their campaign awareness office in downtown Champaign with an Open House on Monday, Oct. 9, from 5 to 6 p.m. The office, located on the ground floor of Church Street Square, will be open daily through Election Day, Nov. 7. The Open House is open to the public and press. The Prairie Greens are the local branch of the Green Party, which is running longtime consumer advocate Ralph Nader as its presidential candidate. The Greens are taking steps in this election year to become the major third party in Illinois and across the nation. This week, Nader and his running mate, native American activist Winona LaDuke, won a spot on the Illinois ballot after surviving a petition challenge from the state's Democratic leadership. "We're opening this office to help people throughout East Central Illinois learn about the Green alternative," said Jim Buell, one of about fifty members of the local group. "When people learn about the Greens, they realize there's an alternative to politics as usual, and our support grows." "We have a lot to celebrate in Illinois this week," Buell said. "Ralph Nader is drawing over 10,000 people to a super-rally in Chicago on Tuesday night, and our recent victory in the ballot fight shows we have what it takes to be a strong force for political reform in this state and nationally." The Chicago rally, at the UIC Pavilion, will feature Nader, filmmaker Michael Moore, author Studs Terkel, 1980 independent presidential candidate John B. Anderson, former talk-show host Phil Donahue and musician Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam. Tickets are $10 per person and are available by calling the Chicago Nader Campaign office toll-free at 1-866-NADER-4U. Local Greens scoff when asked whether Nader can win the presidency this year. "He certainly could if he had a shot at the debates and at fair media time, but that's not the way our political system works," said Zach Miller, another Prairie Green. "Money counts for too much, and the Nader campaign nationally has about as much of that as the Satterthwaite-Winkel match-up." That's by design, Miller stressed: "Nader and the Greens aren't accepting any corporate money, any PAC money, any lobbying group money. We believe in grassroots, community politics, not mega-money politics." The Greens scorn the war chests of the Republicans and Democrats, whose corporate sponsorship "makes their candidates the mouthpieces for corporate policies that are against the people's interests," Miller said. Even so, he said, the Greens believe their potential support runs far deeper than polls of "likely voters" would indicate: "We're after the un-likely voter, the half of all voters who sleep in on Election Day because they don't think there's anything worth voting for. With the Greens, there is." That's one reason the Greens are pushing for everyone to update their voter registrations by the deadline this Tuesday: "If you've moved since you registered to vote, you aren't registered," Miller noted. He and other Greens believe this election holds the key to "growing the Greens." "If Nader can win just five percent of the presidential votes in Illinois next month, we earn the right to run a full slate of statewide candidates in 2002," Buell pointed out. "That means we can run Green candidates for governor and lieutenant governor, treasurer, secretary of state, comptroller, senator, the works," he said. And if Nader wins five percent of the votes nationally, the Greens qualify for federal matching funds for the 2004 presidential race, Buell said. The larger the number of votes cast for Nader, the more seriously all politicians will take the issues the Greens support, he added. Miller characterized the Greens as a progressive, populist movement "such as this country hasn't seen for half a century." Unlike many recent third party movements, the Greens aren't about "an individual candidate, a single issue or just being against something," he said. Instead, the Green Party is built around local consensus decision-making and a set of ideals its supporters refer to as The Ten Key Values: ecological wisdom; social justice and equal opportunity; grassroots democracy; nonviolence; decentralization; community based economics; gender equity and cooperative values; respect for diversity; personal and global responsibility; and future focus and sustainability. "These aren't just words for us," Miller said. "They're the key to who we are and what we do, in our politics, our social lives and our place in the community." The key values help explain why the Greens are the only political party calling for national health insurance, full public campaign financing, a reduction in the military budget, an end to the country's failed "war on drugs," a minimum wage above the poverty line, abolition of the death penalty, the curtailing of corporate economic power, and the promotion of environmental and human values over profit values. "These are core issues for our country, and the major parties refuse to even mention them." The Prairie Greens will use their office in downtown Champaign to plan campaign-related events, distribute Nader/LaDuke and Green Party materials, and serve as a convenient place for current and new supporters to gather, Buell said. "We invite people from throughout the central Illinois community to come, check us out and join with us in the next few weeks," he said. "They'll learn that the Greens are here to stay. It's now that we're building the energy that will see us into the local elections next spring, the statewide elections in 2002, the next presidential elections four years from now, and a permanent place in the American political scene." The Prairie Greens campaign awareness office is accessible from the Randolph Street entrance to Church Street Square, 206 N. Randolph St., Champaign. After Wednesday, Oct. 11, the telephone number will be 217-355-5001. The Prairie Greens also maintain an online presence via their website, http://www.prairienet.org/greens. They can be reached by mail at Post Office Box 184, Urbana, IL 61803-0184. From tegan at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 8 14:38:13 2000 From: tegan at students.uiuc.edu (tracy scott egan) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Students for Nader meeting Message-ID: The next Students for NAder Meeting is Monday, October 9, at 6pm in Gregory Hall room 319. We've requested space on the Quad for a speakout/rally on Thursday October 19th and so we need people to step up and help build this event. We hope to see you all on Monday night. tracy From jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu Mon Oct 9 11:37:37 2000 From: jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu (John Paul Schmit) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] 6 Nader flyers on the State Party website References: Message-ID: <39E1F451.A8153C6C@life.uiuc.edu> Hello everyone, I have made some Nader Flyers available in Adobe (.pdf) format on the state web page. I put 2 flyers from votenader.com there - 1 is general info and compares Nader with Bush and Gore, the other is on reforming elections and campaign finance. I also made 4 Ralph Nader on the issues flyers. There are Environment, Social Security, Health Care, and Children/Education. I used the text from the issues section of the votenader.com site and put it in a format that can be used for tabling, leafleting etc. The environment flyer is 2 pages long, the others are 1 page long. There is space at the bottom of each flyer for your groups information and for any disclaimer need for legal purposes (i.e. "Paid for by the Where-ever Greens"). I plan to make several more - on Corporations, Race, Living Wage, Women's Issues. If there is are additional things that should be covered drop me an email and let me know. Also, if you end up using them, drop me an email to let me know. To get the flyers go to http://www.greens.org/illinois and click on the link about flyers in the middle of the page at the top. John Paul From bhalla at uiuc.edu Mon Oct 9 12:08:22 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Tuesday rally Message-ID: <200010091708.MAA26709@a-night-at-the-opera> Howdy all, Just a reminder that the Chicago super rally is tomorrow. Speakers include Ralph Nader, Studs Terkel, Phil Donahue, Michael Moore, John Anderson, and Eddie Vedder. Should be grand. If you don't have tickets, they could be acquired tonight at the Students for Nader meeting (319 Gregory Hall at 6pm). The bus we chartered is all reserved out, but perhaps there are people interested in going that could car pool. If people are planning on driving up or need a ride up there, perhaps we can coordinate through this email list or at the Students for Nader meeting. Thanks, and let's keep on fighting, Arun From bhalla at uiuc.edu Mon Oct 9 12:22:48 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] need a ride? Message-ID: <200010091722.MAA26858@a-night-at-the-opera> If you need a ride for Tuesday night, perhaps Molly (molly@clamcenter.org) may have a spot or two available for you. cheers, Arun From wolfgang at wolfgang.groogroo.com Mon Oct 9 12:57:18 2000 From: wolfgang at wolfgang.groogroo.com (Zachary Miller) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Car Pooling to the Rally Message-ID: <20001009175718.573111BADF@slots.com> I want to make sure all the rides don't fall through the cracks so I want to compile a list of cars and riders. Could everyone who has extra seats in their cars please send me a note. Anyone who is still looking for a ride please send me a note. Anyone who is already compiling this kind of information please send me a note. I want to make sure someone has this list and that by the end of the day we can find cars for all the people, and maybe if we have a lot of cars and a few people we can actually combine some cars and save some gas. Also it might be a good idea for the people driving or people looking for rides to the Rally to rendezvous at the Lot-E parking lot where the bus will be leaving at 4:30pm so if there are extra seats on the bus due to no-shows we can squeeze more people onto the bus and leave some cars behind. Just email me and let me know what is up. Even if you don't have a ticket for the rally yet, if you want to go let me know because we can probably find a car for you. -- Zachary C. Miller - Go We Go - http://wolfgang.groogroo.com/ - @= IMSA 1995 - UIUC 2000 - Just Another Leftist Muppet Social Justice, Community, Nonviolence, Decentralisation, Sustainability, Feminism, Responsibility, Diversity, Democracy, Ecology - http://www.greens.org - http://www.votenader.org From jbuell at students.uiuc.edu Mon Oct 9 14:12:51 2000 From: jbuell at students.uiuc.edu (james gregory buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Tuesday rally In-Reply-To: <200010091708.MAA26709@a-night-at-the-opera> Message-ID: I also still have tix available for the rally. Give me a call at 390-6368 if you need one or more. Or drop by the Prairie Greens campaign awareness office in downtown Champaign tonight from 5 to 6 for our grand opening/open house. The address is 206 N. Randolph St. (at Church St.), inside Church Street Square, the former Robeson building. Jim 390-6368 On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Arun Bhalla wrote: > > Howdy all, > > Just a reminder that the Chicago super rally is tomorrow. Speakers > include Ralph Nader, Studs Terkel, Phil Donahue, Michael Moore, John > Anderson, and Eddie Vedder. Should be grand. If you don't have > tickets, they could be acquired tonight at the Students for Nader > meeting (319 Gregory Hall at 6pm). The bus we chartered is all reserved > out, but perhaps there are people interested in going that could car pool. > > If people are planning on driving up or need a ride up there, perhaps we can > coordinate through this email list or at the Students for Nader meeting. > > Thanks, and let's keep on fighting, > Arun > > > _______________________________________________ > Nader-uiuc mailing list > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Mon Oct 9 19:49:23 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Tomorrow and Wednesday Message-ID: Hey, Naderites! How is it going? Well, the important stuff first... The bus will leave tomorrow at 4:30, from the "E" lot, which is by the Assembly Hall, I believe. Me (Daria) and Ilan will be shuttling people there starting at 4. Also, you can take the bus, called "Shuttle" there as well. If you drive yourself to the parking lot, arrangements have been made that you may leave your car there till 3 am (we'll come back before that), without receiving a ticket. So, if you need a ride to the bus call 384-5176 for Daria or 384-7987 for Ilan or in case of an emergency call 390-1865 We'll take care of you. now, we will table on Wednesday Here is what the schedule looks like 10-11 Tracy (I hope that's fine with you) 11-12 Daria, Sonu, Esteban 12-1 Ilan 1-2 Esteban, Matt 2-3 Kirill, Robert Please help out See you tomorrow Daria From jdegner at students.uiuc.edu Mon Oct 9 20:30:07 2000 From: jdegner at students.uiuc.edu (jacob frank degner) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Car Pooling to the Rally In-Reply-To: <20001009175718.573111BADF@slots.com> Message-ID: Hey anyone, I am so happy! I just learned that the only thing stopping me from going to the Nader rally (i.e. a calculus test) has been reschedueled. I would like to know if it is still possible to get tickets to the rally and if it is still possible, is it possible to get transportation. I am happy to buy a seat on the bus or contribute toward a carpool if anything is still available. If someone knows something, fill me in. I plan to be out at the parking lot tommorow to try to get in a vehicle. Hope to hear from someone Sincerely Jack Degner URH 0403 Blaisdell Hall 906 W College Ct. Urbana Il 61801-4787 Phone: (217) 332-3541 E Mail: Jdegner@uiuc.edu From ieyman at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu Mon Oct 9 21:02:19 2000 From: ieyman at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Ilan Eyman) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] unofficial minutes of the 10/9 meeting. References: Message-ID: <39E278AB.F62D192B@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu> Unofficial Minutes from the October 9th meeting of the Students for Nader Call to order at 6:07pm We voted between several worthy choices for in-flight videos. "The Big One" and "Roger and Me" was most popular, but the committee on organizing the bus reserves the right to override the popular vote in favor of seeing a non Michael Moore video for variety's sake. Bus ride for the 10-10-10,000 rally is a go. "The Shuttle," an MTD bus takes people from the Quad to the pick-up spot (Lot E-14) (first and Kirby). The bus will LEAVE at 4:30. Be there early to get settled, please. Zach is organizing the car pooling. Basically, car poolers shall meet with the bus at lot E-14. If you didn't get on the bus, then there will be room in someone's car. Emergency last hour calls for help or rides are to be directed to Zach's cellular phone# 390-1865 Zach is a miracle worker. He will get you to Chicago. Tabling: Tracy implied we're tabling on Wednesday by virtue of a "See you on Wednesday" remark. We sent around a list of people to volunteer to keep the table alive. Daria will email this list to the group to remind people. I enter a special plea for help at the table. We are only doing this one day this week. PLEASE stop by and help us get the word out on Wednesday. We especially need people between 12:00 - 1:00pm. Open Mic: Thursday is open mic in front of the Union between 12:00 - 1:00 for a speak-out. If you have anything pro Nader to say to everyone, this is the time. Just a short explanation of why you are voting for Nader is probably most effective. We need MAYBE people during this special hour. It's really cool. Anyone can do this! Future plans: Next Friday (10/20), Rally for the Women's Direct Action Collective. Zach is making 200 flyers tailored special for this event. There may be an open mic for this too. Think about talking for these people about Ralph Nader. Debate Committee: So far committee members are Robert Dunn and Matt. Debate will be held at Allen Hall. The main pieces are in place for this, just detail work to be done. We need volunteers to make this happen. Email Robert at: prorobert8@hotmail.com to get involved! Meeting Adjourned at 6:55pm. Respectfully Submitted, Ilan Eyman From jbuell at uiuc.edu Tue Oct 10 08:46:29 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] UIC Pavilion location Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001010084312.00ba1df0@students.uiuc.edu> For anyone driving to the rally who plans to park elsewhere in Chicago and hop an el. >From: "Matt (Matebian) Galloway" >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:23:26 -0500 >Subject: [illinoisgreens] EL stop is Racine not UIC-Halsted > >Rally goers please note the EL stop printed on the ticket is wrong. >The UIC Pavilion is at the Racine stop on the Blue line. See you >tonight. By the way, can someone post good directions for driving to and parking near the Pavilion? Jim From mepstein at uiuc.edu Tue Oct 10 09:46:25 2000 From: mepstein at uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Re: [Prairiegreens] UIC Pavilion location In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20001010084312.00ba1df0@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Jim Buell wrote: [ ... ] > By the way, can someone post good directions for driving to and > parking near the Pavilion? I don't know about parking, but I got what looks to be good directions from www.mapquest.com. I selected "Sports Complexes" for Chicago, and the UIC Pavilion was one of the choices. BTW, its address is 1150 W. Harrison. The directions basically are: Take I-57 North until it ends, at which point it merges into I-94 (Dan Ryan Expressway). Continue on I-94 West, it will merge with I-90 West. Continue on I-90/I-94 West. Exit onto I-290 West (Eisenhower Expressway). Exit Morgan St./1000 W, exit number 29B, and turn left (south) onto Morgan St. (it looks like Morgan St. is only a couple of exits from where you get on I-290). Go a block or two on Morgam St., then turn right (west) onto Harrison St. The Pavilion is just a few blocks up on Harrison. The directions say that the total distance is about 137 miles, estimated driving time, 2:37 (which seems quite conservative to me). Milt Epstein Research Programmer Software/Systems Development Group Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) mepstein@uiuc.edu From jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu Tue Oct 10 10:25:08 2000 From: jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu (John Paul Schmit) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] 4 More Nader Flyers Message-ID: <39E334D3.A41DD6A2@life.uiuc.edu> Hello everyone, The state party web page has 4 more Nader flyers: Corporations, Living Wage, Race and Women's Issues The Living Wage and Women's Issues Flyers also have quotes from Winona LaDuke You can download these flyers at http://www.greens.org/illinois Enjoy, John Paul From p-riism at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 11 10:55:31 2000 From: p-riism at uiuc.edu (Paul Riismandel) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Forwarded article: High-voltage rally brings Nader a chorus of cheers Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001011105401.00e10600@staff.uiuc.edu> This article is from today's Tribune. I also heard a short report on NPR this morning during the hourly news wrapup. >The following article was selected from the Internet Edition >of the Chicago Tribune. To visit the site, point your browser >to http://chicagotribune.com/. >----------- Chicago Tribune Article Forwarding---------------- > >Article >URL: >http://chicago.tribune.com/news/metro/chicago/ws/item/0,1308,46649-46513-47406,00.html > > >---Forwarded article---------------- >High-voltage rally brings Nader a chorus of cheers > >By Jeff Zeleny
and James Warren > >Political rallies seldom require the use of earplugs. > >But when Ralph Nader came to the Chicago campus of the University of >Illinois on Tuesday night, with Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam fame in tow, >more than a few civics-minded Americans who have been following >Nader's consumer crusade for more than a generation wondered what they >had gotten themselves into. > >Vedder left his grunge rock band behind, though, and strummed on a >solo guitar to the raucous cheers of an overflow crowd at the >9,500-seat UIC Pavilion. He told the audience that he'd hoped to craft >a Nader-specific song but gave up, realizing he could not improve on >his second and final effort of the evening, Bob Dylan's "The Times >They Are a Changing." > >Nader stormed into the Pavilion to an energized crowd on yet another >stop of his super-rally tour across America. From Oregon to Minnesota >to Massachusetts, the Green Party presidential candidate has drawn big >and enthusiastic, rock-concert-size crowds."This is something we >haven't seen in this country since the '70s," said Rick Markley, who >brought his two teenage sons to witness what he wishes was a Nader >revolution. "This is everything they missed out on, wrapped in a small >microcosm." > >It was part pep rally, part talk show, part revival and part rave. Low >on money but high on energy, Nader backers got the word out about the >rally in decidedly retro, unconventional and low-tech ways. One ad was >scrawled in huge chalk letters Tuesday afternoon on North Michigan >Avenue. Vedder helped spread news of his own involvement at a Pearl >Jam concert the night before in Rosemont. > >While politicians routinely toss high-bucks fundraisers and dinners to >raise campaign cash, Nader tapped his backers by charging a modest >admission. The price per head was $10, but those who claimed to be >strapped were allowed in for only $7. > >Against the backdrop of a giant campaign banner and two thickets of >shrubbery, Nader called for a universal health care system and an end >to corporate welfare in America. "It is not extremism for people in >this country to say no to the hucksters and the corporate child >molesters," Nader said. "Get off the backs of our children." > >While the bulk of the crowd was made up of younger voters, some with >dreadlocks, some with brightly dyed hair, parents and grandparents >came, too, to absorb a progressive movement that shuns corporate >America and the two major political candidates, Democratic Vice >President Al Gore and Texas Republican Gov. George W. Bush. > >"Gore or Bush, what's your choice?" Chicago author and radio icon >Studs Terkel asked the crowd. "Influenza or Pneumonia, what's your >choice?" > >Nader, who championed the mandatory use of seat belts and other >consumer issues long before many who came to cheer him were born, last >week survived a challenge by Democrats, clearing the way for his name >to be added to the presidential ballot in Illinois. > >And on Tuesday, Nader supporters took good advantage of the last day >to register to vote by signing up scores of new voters at the rally. >Former TV talk show host Phil Donahue, who has become part of Nader's >traveling political roadshow, reminded the crowd that America has been >surprised before by politicians. "They wouldn't let Jesse Ventura in >the debates," Donahue said, referring to the Minnesota governor. >"Suddenly, the wrestler was governor. That's what we want in this >campaign." > >The concert/rally climaxed a hectic half-day in Chicago for Nader, who >arrived in mid-afternoon from Detroit and a series of local and >national cable TV interviews before hustling to the Northwest Side >studio of WTTW-Ch.11 to tape "Chicago Tonight." He also squeezed in a >small Greektown fundraiser and an MTV interview with Vedder. > >Then it was off to the headquarters of Teamsters Union Local 705 near >the United Center, where he addressed about 100 members of the >20,000-member local whose main employer is the United Parcel Service. > >His remarks to the unionists focused on his harsh critique of federal >labor law and the current impediments to union organizing. He was the >only presidential candidate to accept the local's offer to speak to >members; the national union has endorsed Gore. > >Many of those in the crowd at UIC cared little about endorsements or >the political establishment. Mark Campbell, 23, came to see Nader >after hearing Vedder make passionate pitches for the Green Party at >Pearl Jam shows.Campbellhas not decided whom to vote for, but he said >Vedder's politicking might hold some sway. "I don't know if I would be >here if I hadn't seen Pearl Jam and if Vedder hadn't talked about it >so much," Campbell said. > >The ideological perspective of many in attendance was summed up by >filmmaker Michael Moore, one of the speakers, who declared, "a vote >for Bush is a vote for Gore, and a vote for Gore is a vote for Bush." > >Indeed that was the case for Jen Jensen, 27, a corn and bean farmer >from Kankakee > >"I'm extremely open politically but the Libertarian Party doesn't have >much of a stand on education, and that's why I'm looking at the Green >Party," Jensen said. "So I'm very interested to hear what Ralph Nader >has to say." > >Sitting with his two sons, Markley has heard all talk from Democrats >that a vote for Nader is tantamount to a vote for Bush. That, he told >his sons, is not democracy. > >"It's not about whether you vote for someone who will win," he said. >"If you go into the voting booth and pull the lever for someone you >don't believe in, that's wasting your vote." > > Tribune staff writer Noah Isackson contributed to this report. > > From bhalla at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 11 11:15:06 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] tabling Message-ID: <200010111615.LAA14038@a-night-at-the-opera> Note that today (and perhaps the rest of the week) we'll be tabling inside the union, in the southwest vestibule (Quad side). cheers, Arun From bhalla at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 11 12:06:34 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: A Vote for Ralph is a Vote for Ralph! Message-ID: <200010111706.MAA14428@a-night-at-the-opera> ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:43:46 -0400 From: Nader 2000 Campaign Subject: Action Alert: A Vote for Ralph is a Vote for Ralph! Dear Citizen Activist: We are headed into the final month of the campaign in good shape and with some hard work, prepared to wipe the smug smile off the faces of the two major corporate parties. The political landscape now is more favorable to us than at any time this year. And the super rallies have proven that our campaign is not going to politely fade into the history books. The debate commission has been exposed and with their heavy handed tactics of denying Ralph Nader a chance to view the debate in an anteroom they have validated everything we have said about them. Our focus this week is to explain why for most of the country, a vote for Nader is not a "wasted" vote or a "spoiler" vote. PRINT MISSION: The topic for this week's letter to the editor is refuting the democratic argument that if you vote for Ralph Nader you are spoiling Al Gore's chances or wasting your vote. Except for a very small number of states, people have a free vote. They can vote their conscience for Ralph Nader, send a message that they understand that the system is corrupt and it's time to clean up Washington. In at least three-fourths of the country, and perhaps as many as nine states out of ten, a vote for Ralph Nader is not a vote for George Bush-it's really a vote for Ralph Nader. Here's why: the president is not elected by the popular vote, but by a majority (270) of the 538 electoral votes. These electoral votes are cast by state, and it's winner-take-all within each state. Thus, a Nader vote has no chance of "spoiling" the outcome for Al Gore unless it potentially changes the outcome within each state. The truth is, for 90 percent of the states (including the biggest ones), that's not going to happen So here's the test. If you live in Florida, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin, you live in a battleground state and you should still vote for Ralph Nader and tell your nervous friends that they should vote for their hopes and dreams and not their fears. If you live in any of the 43 other states a vote for Bush or Gore is a wasted vote because of the electoral college, and its winner take all system. Vote for Nader and send a message that we our not going to give up our government without a fight. DIRECT ACTION MISSION: This week we need to direct our energy into our own neighborhoods. All politics is local, and we have to get our message out to people who don't know that Ralph is running. You can get flyers from the local coordinators or download the flyer from our website: http://www.votenader.org/downloads/NaderFlyer3.pdf and distribute it in your neighborhood. Before you go door-to-door, please contact your county coordinator to find who is coordinating canvassing efforts in your neighborhood - we don't want to create duplicate efforts. If you don't know your county coordinator, just ask your state coordinator (http://www.votenader.org/getinvolved.html). If you have questions check out the canvassing section of the Nader 2000 Field Manual before hitting the streets (http://www.votenader.org/fieldmanualintro.html). WEB MISSION: The mission for this week is to find a political website that is missing a Nader link and send the administrator a request. Let's make sure that we are using all the tools at our disposal. FUNDRAISING MISSION: There is a new house-party contest on our website. The winner gets to host a GOTV rally at the end of the campaign with a celebrity from our national steering committee. To find out more details go to: www.votenader.org/materials/houseparty/contest.html ISSUE OF THE WEEK: KEEP OUR AIRWAVES PUBLIC In a blatant effort to curry favor with the corporate media, the Democrats and Republicans in the Senate are working to pass a bill that will kill grassroots radio. In January 2000 the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) voted to create new Low Power FM (LPFM) radio service. Local, non-commercial stations could be built for between 5 and 10 thousand dollars. Since then thousands of excited schools, activist groups, arts organizations and all sorts of non-profits in every state have applied or prepared to apply to build a neighborhood radio station. Over 1300 applications for (LPFM) licenses have already been received by the FCC. Legislation to gut the LPFM initiative has passed in the House of Representatives and is poised to be passed in the Senate THIS WEEK! The airwaves belong to the people, not corporate interests. We have no time to waste. The Senate will only be in session for a few more days. The bill to quash LPFM now stands at 53 co-sponsors in the Senate, including many key Democrats. Make your Senator think twice before doing the bidding of the big broadcasters. Send to: The Honorable __________ United States Senate Washington, DC 20510 To find your senator, go to www.senate.gov Thank you for your support of the Nader 2000 campaign! _________________________________________________________________ To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change options: http://votenader.org/newsletter.html Through this weekly newsletter you will get updates about the latest happenings in the Nader 2000 campaign: you can find out how you can volunteer (http://votenader.org/volunteer.html), how you and your friends can make contributions (http://votenader.org/donate.html) and how to ENCOURAGE OTHERS to VOLUNTEER and WORK to TRANSFORM THIS YEAR'S RACE INTO AN OPEN DEBATE ON CORPORATE CONTROL OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR LIVES. Please forward this message to all of your friends and encourage them to sign up! Paid for by the Nader 2000 General Committee, Inc. P.O. Box 18002, Washington, D.C. 20036 campaign@votenader.org ------- End of Forwarded Message From bhalla at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 11 13:07:29 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: press from SunTimes Message-ID: <200010111807.NAA14983@a-night-at-the-opera> ------- Forwarded Message Nader draws sellout crowd October 11, 2000 BY KATE N. GROSSMAN STAFF REPORTER Ralph Nader and his supporters aren't going away quietly. A capacity crowd of 10,000 showed up at the University of Illinois at Chicago Pavilion Tuesday night for an old-fashioned rally for the Green Party presidential candidate. "It's Ralph Nader night in big windy," television personality Phil Donahue, a longtime Nader admirer, told the cheering crowd, warming them up for the headliner. "To those who would dismiss us as a nattering distraction to the big presidential show, we want you to know that Ralph Nader sold them out in Portland, Ore., Seattle, the Target Center in Minneapolis, the Fleet Center in Boston, and we knocked 'em dead in Flint," Donahue said. The lifelong consumer activist has been traveling the country bringing his anti-corporate campaign message to packed houses of 10,000 to 12,000 people. "Corporations were designed years ago to be our servants, but they've become our masters," Nader said. "But that can be changed by a new, powerful Green Party movement." Besides Donahue, famed Chicago writer Studs Terkel, 1980 third party presidential candidate John Anderson, Pearl Jam singer Eddie Vedder and documentary film director Michael Moore were on hand. Vedder sang Bob Dylan's "The Times They Are A-Changin'." "For the first time in 20 years, I see the possibility of a third party taking root," Anderson said. Moore refused to accept popular wisdom about such candidates. " `Ralph can't win.' . . . Who started that rumor? Don't you want to find the guy that started that rumor and strangle him?" Moore asked the crowd. Nader offered a pro-environment stance, concern for the poor, an international perspective and an independent voice that drew young people in droves Tuesday night. "The civil society in Washington is being closed out by a combination of political parties whose primary interest is raising money," Nader said. "That is undermining our democratic society in a very profound way." It was the message many wanted to hear. "I think we need a voice that isn't about money," said UIC undergraduate Kim Richards. "I don't like how the lines between corporations and politics are blending together." Others said they came because they were dissatisfied with what major party presidential candidates George W. Bush and Al Gore have to offer. "I'm voting my conscience," said Scott Garrett, 32, a computer programmer from Arlington Heights. For about 20 minutes, the Green Party collected an undetermined amount of money from the audience. ------- End of Forwarded Message From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Wed Oct 11 16:45:01 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] The rally! Message-ID: Hey, everyone! I hope you are having a productive week. How is it going? Well, we have a few points of interest to address. 1. St. Louis protest is on Tuesday. It is a protest against NAder's exclusion from the debates. The last debate is in Washington U. So, that's where the protest will be. We will be carpooling there. We'll leave around 2 o'clock from this campus, and we will be back around 11-12 at night. Anyone interested in going, e-mail me. Also, let me know if you have a car or not. 2. Tabling on Friday. We will have a table on Friday inside the Union, as we did today. Let me know if you can come anytime from 10-3. 3. I will try to organize for someone who is knowledgeable about the issue to come in and talk about how to "not get arrested at a protest". So, we will probably have that on Friday. More details on that as they come. 4. We have people organizing local/campus debates. So, keep your eyes open for that. Thanks everyone. Daria From jbuell at uiuc.edu Thu Oct 12 12:55:09 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] awful DI article(s); we need letter writers Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001012124138.00c3ca10@students.uiuc.edu> Would someone like to take the lead on writing one or more letters to the DI? They failed to cover the 10/10 rally at all (likewise the News-Gazette), and the piece on candidates in today's issue was particularly appalling re Nader: "Ralph Nader has visited New Mexico several times because it is one of the few states where he is officially on the ballot." (duh, 43 with a ballot line + 3 write-in is 'few' out of how many? see map at http://www.votenader.com/getinvolved.html). Might be good to point out to the DI folks that over 100 C-U folks including our busload went up to the rally and are heavily involved in grassroots Nader campaigning right here - to lump Nader in with the ho-hum campus reaction to bushgore is damn near inexcusable. Another issue worth bringing up in letters to the editor to both the DI and N-G this week - the pseudo-debates. Here's a good start, from the Nader campaign press office this morning. Jim B. (we're much in need of one or more media coordinators for the Prairie Greens campaign awareness office, by the way - any volunteers to lend a hand with press releases, letter campaigns, etc.?) ----------- Nader 2000 Press Release OCTOBER 12, 2000 CONTACT: Jake Lewis or Tom Adkins (202) 265-4000 NON-DEBATE AMONG CANDIDATES MAKES PUBLIC BEG FOR THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATES Moderator: ?Is there any difference?? Gore: ?I haven?t heard a big difference right in the last few exchanges ? Bush: ?Well, I think it?s hard to tell.? * WASHINGTON, DC. Oct. 12 ? The code phrase for the second Presidential debate was ?I agree.? Twelve times during the debate George W. Bush and Albert Gore used a variant of the phrase ?I agree with you?, and 28 more times they used other words to let the national television audience know they were in agreement on everything from foreign policy to trigger locks to the need for gas drilling in pristine areas of Alaska. With that many ?agreements,? was it a debate? Bush obviously worried about that, mentioning during their agreement on a hands-off approach to the genocide in Rwanda that ?it seems like we?re having a great love fest right now.? Do we need three national debates to learn the obvious ?that there are few differences and numerous areas of agreement between Gore and Bush? To save valuable air-time in the third debate in St. Louis, Gore and Bush could simply stipulate their agreements in advance and use ten minutes to outline the minutia on which they actually disagree. Then they could let the other candidates have their say. Of tonight?s debate, Green party candidate Ralph Nader opined, ?This misnamed debate was an interminable tedium of platitudinous dittos, garnished by relentless evasions and marinated in cowardly escapes from challenging the entrenched corporate interests.? ### From prorobert8 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 12 14:17:00 2000 From: prorobert8 at hotmail.com (Robert Dunn) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: Homecoming 2000: No More Racism in Our Communities or Schools (fwd) Message-ID: >From: alexander ulysses bonick >To: Undisclosed recipients: ; >Subject: Homecoming 2000: No More Racism in Our Communities or Schools >(fwd) >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:09:21 -0500 (CDT) > >Hello! > > It's that time of year again - time to celebrate homecoming. But >many of us cannot, or refuse to, celebrate because every athletic event at >this university is shadowed by racism. This is the 10 year anniversary of >the struggle to remove 'chief illiniwek' as symbol of our university. Come >join the Illinois Chapter of The National Coalition on Racism in Sports >and the Media for their anti-racist weekend events, "Orange and Blue for >the New Millennium." Racism, in any form, has no place in our communities >or schools. Join us as we try to re-claim this weekend by participating in >our parade float, silent protest, and seminar. Learn about racism in >Champaign-Urbana and at UIUC, network with other organizers, activists, >and concerned citizens and students, and discuss how to combat the 75-year >stereotype that looms over central Illinois. > Please forward widely, to your own group, other groups, listservs, >and friends. Let's show how committed we are to ending racism by bringing >out the thousands of people from town and campus who oppose the 'chief'! > >Thank You, >Alex Bonick, NCRSM - IL Chapter >_____________________________________________________________________________ > >The National Coalition on Racism in Sports and the Media > >Invites you to: > >Terminating Institutional Racism: >Epitaph for the Chief > >Annual Homecoming Event >October 13 and 14, 2000 >University of Illinois -Champaign/Urbana > >Seminar and Event Schedule: > >Friday, October 13th: > >6:00 pm: Homecoming Parade: "Orange and Blue for the New Millennium" > - Float sponsored by: Alpha Kappa Delta and NCRSM > - All participants are invited to join us in the parade. If possible, >please wear Prairie Fire t-shirts. > - Route: Starts at Sixth and Gregory, then north on Sixth Street, then >east on Green Street, then south on Mathews Avenue. The parade ends at >Mathews and Nevada. > >7:30 pm: Post-parade Reception and Organizing Session > - Lincoln Hall Room 304, 702 South Wright Street > - Welcome by Cyd Crue >- Distinguished Guests: >Dennis Banks, American Indian Movement Board of Directors >Vernon Bellecourt, President, NCRSM >Don Messec, NCRSM, Board of Directors > >Saturday, October 14th: > >10:00 am: Continental Breakfast > - 702 South Wright Street, Lincoln Hall Room 304) > >11:30 am: Ecumenical Prayer Service and Pipe Ceremony at Memorial Stadium > - Solemn procession around football stadium > >1:00 pm - 2:00 pm: Where are we Now? > - Featured Speakers: >Carol Spindel, Professor, UIUC: >Historical background and publication of "Dancing at Halftime" >Stephen Kaufman, Professor, UIUC: >Report on Intake Session >Mark Abers, UIUC: >A Racially Hostile Climate in C-U? An experience in survey research > >2:00 pm - 3:00 pm: Continuing the Struggle - Where do we go from here? > - Dialogue on Stepping up Activism >Cyd Crue, President, NCRSM-IL >Vernon Bellecourt, President, NCRSM >Dennis Banks, American Indian Movement Board of Directors > >3:00 pm - 4:00 pm: Workshops on Reaching out and Facilitating Change >(rooms to be announced) > - Imani Bazell: Community Organizing > - Ann Haugo and Chris Valeo: Student Organizing > - Jay Rosenstein and Dan Green: Organizing Academics > - Don Messec, Curt Wilson and Tom Leonard: Organizing National and >State-wide Linkages > >4:00 pm - 5:00 pm: Report from Workshops > >Pot Luck Dinner! >________________________________________________________________________________ > >For more information contact: NCRSM-IL@home.com or 217-355-6757 >http://www.aics.org/NCRSM/index.htm > >"Never again will we allow unflattering and stereotypical images of Indian >people to deface the halls of government or lead the American people to >shallow and ignorant beliefs about Indians. Never again will we attack >your religions, your languages, your rituals, or any of your tribal ways." >- Kevin Gover, Assistant Secretary of Indian Affairs, Department of the >Interior, September 8, 2000 > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Thu Oct 12 14:37:28 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] St.Louis Protest Message-ID: Hey, guys! All right, everyone who wants/can go to St. Louis on Tuesday at around 2 o'clock, e-mail me right away. I'd like to have a solid idea of how many people are going and how many people have cars, etc. If you e-mailed me about this within the last couple of days, do not e-mail me again, unless you really want to. If you need more info before making your decision, e-mail me also. The protest, by the way, is about Nader's exclusion from the debates. Check out info about it at www.o17.org Remember, we are tabling on Friday! Show up when you can! Thanks Daria From bhalla at uiuc.edu Thu Oct 12 21:31:44 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] letter to the editor Message-ID: <200010130231.VAA29919@a-night-at-the-opera.cu.groogroo.com> I wrote up this letter tonight and sent it off to the DI and News-Gazette (perhaps also the Tribune). I agree with Jim that we need to write letters demanding coverage of Nader in our local media, given the bland debates and popular demand to see Nader in the debates. I didn't have room to fit it in my letter, and I figured the News-Gazette editors would edit it out of my letter "for space." They've done it before. cheers, Arun To the editor: After the recent visit of Jeffrey St. Clair in support of his book _Al Gore: A User's Manual_ written with Alexander Cockburn, my distrust of Al Gore has deepened. Gore has shown himself to be a man of half-truths and false promises. Although he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam, he was actually an army reporter with a security escort and spent most of his time drinking beer, smoking dope, and playing basketball. Some wrongly consider him the nation's foremost voice of environmentalism. The League of Conservation Voters rated Gore's voting record at under 66% in agreement with their environmental positions, far less than even some Republicans. More than once, Gore sought exemption from the Endangered Species Act, such as with the utterly useless Tellico Dam on the Little Tennessee River. During the Clinton-Gore administration, loggers got the green light on the Pacific Northwest, bringing the spotted owl closer to extinction. In addition, environmental regulations of the Environmental Protection Agency began to be peeled away. A supposed proponent of civil rights, Gore entered Congress with a campaign against gun control, abortion, and homosexuality (which he considered "abnormal sexual behavior"). We are supposed to believe that he is a defender of abortion, yet his voting record has been 84% against abortion. He opposes Supreme Court justices like Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, yet Gore as a Senator voted for Scalia, and Lieberman strongly endorsed Thomas. I refuse to vote for the Lesser of Two Evils (or second worst) and instead choose to vote for the best ticket: Ralph Nader & Winona LaDuke, individuals reflecting honesty, progress, and justice. In a state such as Illinois which is not a battleground state, if you don't desire the status quo, a vote for Bush or Gore is a wasted vote. From jbuell at uiuc.edu Thu Oct 12 23:36:36 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] letter to the editor In-Reply-To: <200010130231.VAA29919@a-night-at-the-opera.cu.groogroo.com > Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001012232955.00aa18e0@students.uiuc.edu> Way to go, Arun. Dare 'em to print it! By the way, I have a master VHS copy of Jeff St. Clair's talk (2 hours) at Channing-Murray last weekend. It's in the Prairie Greens office. I also have most of the Chicago Rally on video - again, filled a 2 hour tape. Anyone who'd like a copy can call the Greens office (355-5001) and get their name on a request list to get a copy made. We'll look for a nominal donation ($5 or so) for each copy we make. Better still, anyone who's got 2 VCRs can arrange to borrow a master copy in exchange for making a copy or 2 from it for us. Jim At 09:31 PM 10/12/00 -0500, Arun Bhalla wrote: >I wrote up this letter tonight and sent it off to the DI and News-Gazette >(perhaps also the Tribune). I agree with Jim that we need to write letters >demanding coverage of Nader in our local media, given the bland debates >and popular demand to see Nader in the debates. I didn't have room to >fit it in my letter, and I figured the News-Gazette editors would edit >it out of my letter "for space." They've done it before. > >cheers, >Arun > > >To the editor: > >After the recent visit of Jeffrey St. Clair in support of his book _Al >Gore: A User's Manual_ written with Alexander Cockburn, my distrust of >Al Gore has deepened. Gore has shown himself to be a man of >half-truths and false promises. > >Although he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam, he was actually an >army reporter with a security escort and spent most of his time >drinking beer, smoking dope, and playing basketball. > >Some wrongly consider him the nation's foremost voice of >environmentalism. The League of Conservation Voters rated Gore's >voting record at under 66% in agreement with their environmental >positions, far less than even some Republicans. More than once, Gore >sought exemption from the Endangered Species Act, such as with the >utterly useless Tellico Dam on the Little Tennessee River. During the >Clinton-Gore administration, loggers got the green light on the >Pacific Northwest, bringing the spotted owl closer to extinction. In >addition, environmental regulations of the Environmental Protection >Agency began to be peeled away. > >A supposed proponent of civil rights, Gore entered Congress with a >campaign against gun control, abortion, and homosexuality (which he >considered "abnormal sexual behavior"). We are supposed to believe >that he is a defender of abortion, yet his voting record has been 84% >against abortion. He opposes Supreme Court justices like Antonin >Scalia and Clarence Thomas, yet Gore as a Senator voted for Scalia, >and Lieberman strongly endorsed Thomas. > >I refuse to vote for the Lesser of Two Evils (or second worst) and >instead choose to vote for the best ticket: Ralph Nader & Winona >LaDuke, individuals reflecting honesty, progress, and justice. In a >state such as Illinois which is not a battleground state, if you don't >desire the status quo, a vote for Bush or Gore is a wasted vote. > > >_______________________________________________ >Nader-uiuc mailing list >Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com >http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc From golroach at pdnt.com Fri Oct 13 07:13:24 2000 From: golroach at pdnt.com (Richard Taylor) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [Prairiegreens] Re: [SfN] letter to the editor References: <4.2.0.58.20001012232955.00aa18e0@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <000601c0350e$fdf24060$6c42dfd1@oemcomputer> Jim, Put me on the list for VHS copy of the Rally. Also, if there are any more Nader yard signs, I'd like to put a few more up in my neighborhood. Hundreds of people will be parking there for tomorrow's football game. Rich Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Buell" To: "Arun Bhalla" Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: [Prairiegreens] Re: [SfN] letter to the editor > Way to go, Arun. Dare 'em to print it! > > By the way, I have a master VHS copy of Jeff St. Clair's talk (2 hours) at > Channing-Murray last weekend. It's in the Prairie Greens office. I also > have most of the Chicago Rally on video - again, filled a 2 hour tape. > Anyone who'd like a copy can call the Greens office (355-5001) and get > their name on a request list to get a copy made. We'll look for a nominal > donation ($5 or so) for each copy we make. Better still, anyone who's got 2 > VCRs can arrange to borrow a master copy in exchange for making a copy or 2 > from it for us. > > Jim > From hane at cs.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 09:41:11 2000 From: hane at cs.uiuc.edu (Kay Connelly) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] letter to the editor References: <4.2.0.58.20001012232955.00aa18e0@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <39E71F07.534CD056@cs.uiuc.edu> Does anyone have Nader's interview on Charlie Rose? I would love to have it... but PBS charges $30 or $40. Kay Jim Buell wrote: > > Way to go, Arun. Dare 'em to print it! > > By the way, I have a master VHS copy of Jeff St. Clair's talk (2 hours) at > Channing-Murray last weekend. It's in the Prairie Greens office. I also > have most of the Chicago Rally on video - again, filled a 2 hour tape. > Anyone who'd like a copy can call the Greens office (355-5001) and get > their name on a request list to get a copy made. We'll look for a nominal > donation ($5 or so) for each copy we make. Better still, anyone who's got 2 > VCRs can arrange to borrow a master copy in exchange for making a copy or 2 > from it for us. > > Jim > > At 09:31 PM 10/12/00 -0500, Arun Bhalla wrote: > > >I wrote up this letter tonight and sent it off to the DI and News-Gazette > >(perhaps also the Tribune). I agree with Jim that we need to write letters > >demanding coverage of Nader in our local media, given the bland debates > >and popular demand to see Nader in the debates. I didn't have room to > >fit it in my letter, and I figured the News-Gazette editors would edit > >it out of my letter "for space." They've done it before. > > > >cheers, > >Arun > > > > > >To the editor: > > > >After the recent visit of Jeffrey St. Clair in support of his book _Al > >Gore: A User's Manual_ written with Alexander Cockburn, my distrust of > >Al Gore has deepened. Gore has shown himself to be a man of > >half-truths and false promises. > > > >Although he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam, he was actually an > >army reporter with a security escort and spent most of his time > >drinking beer, smoking dope, and playing basketball. > > > >Some wrongly consider him the nation's foremost voice of > >environmentalism. The League of Conservation Voters rated Gore's > >voting record at under 66% in agreement with their environmental > >positions, far less than even some Republicans. More than once, Gore > >sought exemption from the Endangered Species Act, such as with the > >utterly useless Tellico Dam on the Little Tennessee River. During the > >Clinton-Gore administration, loggers got the green light on the > >Pacific Northwest, bringing the spotted owl closer to extinction. In > >addition, environmental regulations of the Environmental Protection > >Agency began to be peeled away. > > > >A supposed proponent of civil rights, Gore entered Congress with a > >campaign against gun control, abortion, and homosexuality (which he > >considered "abnormal sexual behavior"). We are supposed to believe > >that he is a defender of abortion, yet his voting record has been 84% > >against abortion. He opposes Supreme Court justices like Antonin > >Scalia and Clarence Thomas, yet Gore as a Senator voted for Scalia, > >and Lieberman strongly endorsed Thomas. > > > >I refuse to vote for the Lesser of Two Evils (or second worst) and > >instead choose to vote for the best ticket: Ralph Nader & Winona > >LaDuke, individuals reflecting honesty, progress, and justice. In a > >state such as Illinois which is not a battleground state, if you don't > >desire the status quo, a vote for Bush or Gore is a wasted vote. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Nader-uiuc mailing list > >Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > >http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > > _______________________________________________ > Nader-uiuc mailing list > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc From jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 11:03:59 2000 From: jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu (John Paul Schmit) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:50 2004 Subject: [SfN] Large Caravan going to protest debates in St. Louis on Tuesday Message-ID: <39E7326E.A6BDEC12@life.uiuc.edu> Hello everyone, Last night I talked to Dan J-W, the Nader campaign rep in Chicago. He informed me that they are organizing a caravan/mobile campaign rally which will travel through Illinois on the way to protest Nader's exclusion from the debates on Tuesday in St. Louis. He is hoping that everyone from C-U who is planning to go to St. Louis will join in and he also hopes to get television coverage for the trip. The schedule for Tuesday is as follows: 8am - Rally in Chicago 8:30 - Caravan sets out 11:30 - Arrrive in Champaign 12:00 Rally in Champaign 12:30 Leave Chanpaign 2:00 Arrive in Springfield (I think there will be a rally here too.) 5:00 Arrive in St. Louis 7:00 big protest in St. Louis Anyone who can't make the trip to St. Louis in encouraged to attend the noon rally here. So, that is the plan right now. What he needs from us is a location for the Rally in Champaign and the press needs to be alerted. I know people were already planning to go down to St. Louis. Do you have any ideas where the rally can be here? We don't have much time to plan this, so if you have ideas speak up now. John Paul From jbuell at uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 10:55:55 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [Prairiegreens] Re: [SfN] letter to the editor In-Reply-To: <000601c0350e$fdf24060$6c42dfd1@oemcomputer> References: <4.2.0.58.20001012232955.00aa18e0@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001013105348.009db1b0@students.uiuc.edu> Signs r us - still got a couple dozen, though they're going pretty fast. I'm thinking we may just want to order another 70 next week if this keeps up! I love the idea of Ralph signs galore greeting the football fans, too. I'll be in the office from about noon or 12:30 and will call you back from there. Or I've got a few signs in my car, come to think of it. I can swing by your place on my way over to Randolph St. I'll also be duplicating some videos today - you're on the list. Jim At 07:13 AM 10/13/00 -0500, Richard Taylor wrote: >Jim, > >Put me on the list for VHS copy of the Rally. Also, if there are any more >Nader yard signs, I'd like to put a few more up in my neighborhood. Hundreds >of people will be parking there for tomorrow's football game. > >Rich Taylor > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim Buell" >To: "Arun Bhalla" >Cc: ; >Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:36 PM >Subject: [Prairiegreens] Re: [SfN] letter to the editor > > > > Way to go, Arun. Dare 'em to print it! > > > > By the way, I have a master VHS copy of Jeff St. Clair's talk (2 hours) at > > Channing-Murray last weekend. It's in the Prairie Greens office. I also > > have most of the Chicago Rally on video - again, filled a 2 hour tape. > > Anyone who'd like a copy can call the Greens office (355-5001) and get > > their name on a request list to get a copy made. We'll look for a nominal > > donation ($5 or so) for each copy we make. Better still, anyone who's got >2 > > VCRs can arrange to borrow a master copy in exchange for making a copy or >2 > > from it for us. > > > > Jim > > From jbuell at uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 11:02:41 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] copies of Nader videos In-Reply-To: <39E71F07.534CD056@cs.uiuc.edu> References: <4.2.0.58.20001012232955.00aa18e0@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001013105857.00cbce60@students.uiuc.edu> I think I've got the last 20 minutes or so of the Charlie Rose appearance. Happened to catch it channel flipping, as I hadn't seen it announced. My VCRs are gonna be tied up making dupes of the rally and Jeff St. Clair talks, so it'd be better if I could hand my off-air tape along to someone else to make a copy of. Ditto for other tapes I've got that people may want - quite a lot of them, actually. So let's make this a general call - who out there's got a pair of VCRs and the time to borrow some tapes from me and make a couple of copies? Lemme know. Jim office #: 355-5001 At 09:41 AM 10/13/00 -0500, Kay Connelly wrote: >Does anyone have Nader's interview on Charlie Rose? I would >love to have it... but PBS charges $30 or $40. > >Kay > >Jim Buell wrote: > > > > Way to go, Arun. Dare 'em to print it! > > > > By the way, I have a master VHS copy of Jeff St. Clair's talk (2 hours) at > > Channing-Murray last weekend. It's in the Prairie Greens office. I also > > have most of the Chicago Rally on video - again, filled a 2 hour tape. > > Anyone who'd like a copy can call the Greens office (355-5001) and get > > their name on a request list to get a copy made. We'll look for a nominal > > donation ($5 or so) for each copy we make. Better still, anyone who's got 2 > > VCRs can arrange to borrow a master copy in exchange for making a copy or 2 > > from it for us. > > > > Jim > > > > At 09:31 PM 10/12/00 -0500, Arun Bhalla wrote: > > > > >I wrote up this letter tonight and sent it off to the DI and News-Gazette > > >(perhaps also the Tribune). I agree with Jim that we need to write > letters > > >demanding coverage of Nader in our local media, given the bland debates > > >and popular demand to see Nader in the debates. I didn't have room to > > >fit it in my letter, and I figured the News-Gazette editors would edit > > >it out of my letter "for space." They've done it before. > > > > > >cheers, > > >Arun > > > > > > > > >To the editor: > > > > > >After the recent visit of Jeffrey St. Clair in support of his book _Al > > >Gore: A User's Manual_ written with Alexander Cockburn, my distrust of > > >Al Gore has deepened. Gore has shown himself to be a man of > > >half-truths and false promises. > > > > > >Although he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam, he was actually an > > >army reporter with a security escort and spent most of his time > > >drinking beer, smoking dope, and playing basketball. > > > > > >Some wrongly consider him the nation's foremost voice of > > >environmentalism. The League of Conservation Voters rated Gore's > > >voting record at under 66% in agreement with their environmental > > >positions, far less than even some Republicans. More than once, Gore > > >sought exemption from the Endangered Species Act, such as with the > > >utterly useless Tellico Dam on the Little Tennessee River. During the > > >Clinton-Gore administration, loggers got the green light on the > > >Pacific Northwest, bringing the spotted owl closer to extinction. In > > >addition, environmental regulations of the Environmental Protection > > >Agency began to be peeled away. > > > > > >A supposed proponent of civil rights, Gore entered Congress with a > > >campaign against gun control, abortion, and homosexuality (which he > > >considered "abnormal sexual behavior"). We are supposed to believe > > >that he is a defender of abortion, yet his voting record has been 84% > > >against abortion. He opposes Supreme Court justices like Antonin > > >Scalia and Clarence Thomas, yet Gore as a Senator voted for Scalia, > > >and Lieberman strongly endorsed Thomas. > > > > > >I refuse to vote for the Lesser of Two Evils (or second worst) and > > >instead choose to vote for the best ticket: Ralph Nader & Winona > > >LaDuke, individuals reflecting honesty, progress, and justice. In a > > >state such as Illinois which is not a battleground state, if you don't > > >desire the status quo, a vote for Bush or Gore is a wasted vote. > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Nader-uiuc mailing list > > >Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > > >http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nader-uiuc mailing list > > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc From jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 11:07:47 2000 From: jpschmit at life.uiuc.edu (John Paul Schmit) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Caravan part 2 - official announcement - Times changed Message-ID: <39E73353.E88A60EA@life.uiuc.edu> Oops, I just got the official annoucement for the Caravan/Rally As you can see below the time for the C-U rally is now 11:40. Also there will be people converging from Peoria, Decatur and other places once the Caravan reaches Springfield. -JP -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [illinoisballot] 10/17 Take Back Our Debates Caravan to St. Louis!!! Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:48:37 -0000 From: "Dan Johnson-Weinberger" To: illinoisballot@egroups.com I am angry. I am angry that when our country is deciding who should be our president, only two voices are allowed to be heard. I am angry that the corporate parties and their twin candidates of privilege have joined together to keep progressive politics out of the debate. I am angry that our man, Ralph Nader, was LOCKED OUT of the Boston debate, UNINVITED to the North Carolina debate and told NOT TO COME to the St. Louis debate this Tuesday. And I am very angry that our presidential debates are sponsored by a beer company. AND WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! We are going to St. Louis this Tuesday, October 17th, to TAKE BACK OUR DEBATES!!! A large, colorful caravan of cars and vans will converge in St. Louis October 17th in the afternoon to join in the growing protest against the corporate debates that lock out Nader and other voices and keep people from learning about alternatives to the lesser-of-two-evils. We will meet in the Loop at 7:45 am, hold a quick rally and a press event, and then the caravan will roll Downstate by 8:30. We'll likely split into two groups, one leg hitting Champaign-Urbana and Decatur, the other hitting Bloomington-Normal, before meeting in Springfield at about 2:00 pm for a big rally outside the capitol, and hooking up with the Peoria folks, Rockford folks, Quad City people and any other states that are rolling with us. Then it is off to St. Louis, rolling into that town at about 4:30 pm. We'll take part in the protests (see www.017.org for details) as well as some Nader-specific events, and head back at night, to roll back home late at night. Join us. Bring your car and fill it up with friends who are ANGRY about the debate lock-out and want to DO something about it. Forward this email -- let people know -- the TAKE BACK OUR DEBATES caravan is coming and we need your participation to pull this off. These are the tentative times to plan around -- they will be firmed up over the weekend. Start organizing YOUR town now to take part! Chicago rally 8:00 am; departure 8:20 am Champaign-Urbana rally 11:40 am; departure 12:00 pm Decatur rally 12:45 pm; departure 1:00 pm Springfield rally 2:00 pm; departure 2:20 pm St. Louis rally 4:30 pm and the other leg Peoria rally 11:00 am; departure 11:20 am (for Bloomington-Normal) Bloomington-Normal rally 12:20 pm; departure 12:45 pm (for Springfield) Other towns like Rockford, the Quad cities, Joliet, Waukegan, Carbondale, Danville are encouraged to get onboard the TAKE BACK OUR DEBATES Caravan and join the Illinois effort to give our candidate a fair hearing in the presidential debates. For a little perspective, Mexico just had a presidential election in which the PRI, the ruling party of the last 70+ years, the machine party that everyone said could never be beat, lost to Vicente Fox running on a populist platform. There were 6 candidates running for president in Mexico. When the Mexican presidential debates were held, ALL SIX CANDIDATES PARTICIPATED! How did Mexico get to be a more democratic system than the United States? It's time to follow Mexico's lead and TAKE BACK OUR DEBATES from the corporations that are sponsoring them and the two-party lock-out system that are ACTIVELY SUPPRESSING alternative political voices like the Greens. Let's go to St. Louis! Let's TAKE BACK OUR DEBATES!!!! Join us on the caravan if you can, and if you can't, then you MUST join us at the rallies we'll be holding in each town. This Tuesday, October 17th, WE ARE HITTING THE ROAD FOR DEMOCRACY!!!!! Dan Johnson-Weinberger Nader 2000 General Committee, Inc. 59 East Van Buren, 14th floor Chicago IL 60605 312.588.0974 P.S. On the logistical side, each town will be responsible for putting together their rally. Each town must find a place to do it, must make the press calls and must let people know (by Monday at the latest) where the rally will be held. We've got to move fast on this one and spread the word on email lists and among activists so we can get a great turnout. Finally, we can use another list to discuss this event, the IllinoisGreenEvents@egroups.com list. To subscribe, go to www.egroups.com/group/illinoisgreenEvents or send a blank email to IllinoisGreenEvents-subscribe@egroups.com to get into that discussion. -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/11/_/_/_/971452163/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: illinoisballot-unsubscribe@egroups.com From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 11:08:33 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Large Caravan going to protest debates in St. Louis on Tuesday In-Reply-To: <39E7326E.A6BDEC12@life.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: Hey, everyone! We (Students for Nader) are planning to leave at around 2:00 from here to go to the rally, unless of course, you can leave at 12 and go with the caravan. If you were planning on going with us, but you would like to leave with the caravan, please let me know of the changes. Daria On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, John Paul Schmit wrote: > Hello everyone, > Last night I talked to Dan J-W, the Nader campaign rep in Chicago. He > informed me that they are organizing a caravan/mobile campaign rally > which will travel through Illinois on the way to protest Nader's > exclusion from the debates on Tuesday in St. Louis. He is hoping that > everyone from C-U who is planning to go to St. Louis will join in and he > also hopes to get television coverage for the trip. > > The schedule for Tuesday is as follows: > > 8am - Rally in Chicago > 8:30 - Caravan sets out > 11:30 - Arrrive in Champaign > 12:00 Rally in Champaign > 12:30 Leave Chanpaign > 2:00 Arrive in Springfield (I think there will be a rally here too.) > 5:00 Arrive in St. Louis > 7:00 big protest in St. Louis > Anyone who can't make the trip to St. Louis in encouraged to attend the > noon rally here. > > > So, that is the plan right now. > What he needs from us is a location for the Rally in Champaign and the > press needs to be alerted. I know people were already planning to go > down to St. Louis. Do you have any ideas where the rally can be here? > We don't have much time to plan this, so if you have ideas speak up now. > > John Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nader-uiuc mailing list > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 11:38:17 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] St.Louis update Message-ID: hello, everyone! This is a reminder that if you plan on going to the protest in St. Louis on Oct. 17th with "students for Nader" please e-mail me. Unless, you have done so already. Thank you, Daria From arrigo at students.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 12:06:10 2000 From: arrigo at students.uiuc.edu (katie lynn arrigo) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] letter to the editor In-Reply-To: <39E71F07.534CD056@cs.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: please take me off your email list. thanks! katie arrigo On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Kay Connelly wrote: > Does anyone have Nader's interview on Charlie Rose? I would > love to have it... but PBS charges $30 or $40. > > Kay > > Jim Buell wrote: > > > > Way to go, Arun. Dare 'em to print it! > > > > By the way, I have a master VHS copy of Jeff St. Clair's talk (2 hours) at > > Channing-Murray last weekend. It's in the Prairie Greens office. I also > > have most of the Chicago Rally on video - again, filled a 2 hour tape. > > Anyone who'd like a copy can call the Greens office (355-5001) and get > > their name on a request list to get a copy made. We'll look for a nominal > > donation ($5 or so) for each copy we make. Better still, anyone who's got 2 > > VCRs can arrange to borrow a master copy in exchange for making a copy or 2 > > from it for us. > > > > Jim > > > > At 09:31 PM 10/12/00 -0500, Arun Bhalla wrote: > > > > >I wrote up this letter tonight and sent it off to the DI and News-Gazette > > >(perhaps also the Tribune). I agree with Jim that we need to write letters > > >demanding coverage of Nader in our local media, given the bland debates > > >and popular demand to see Nader in the debates. I didn't have room to > > >fit it in my letter, and I figured the News-Gazette editors would edit > > >it out of my letter "for space." They've done it before. > > > > > >cheers, > > >Arun > > > > > > > > >To the editor: > > > > > >After the recent visit of Jeffrey St. Clair in support of his book _Al > > >Gore: A User's Manual_ written with Alexander Cockburn, my distrust of > > >Al Gore has deepened. Gore has shown himself to be a man of > > >half-truths and false promises. > > > > > >Although he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam, he was actually an > > >army reporter with a security escort and spent most of his time > > >drinking beer, smoking dope, and playing basketball. > > > > > >Some wrongly consider him the nation's foremost voice of > > >environmentalism. The League of Conservation Voters rated Gore's > > >voting record at under 66% in agreement with their environmental > > >positions, far less than even some Republicans. More than once, Gore > > >sought exemption from the Endangered Species Act, such as with the > > >utterly useless Tellico Dam on the Little Tennessee River. During the > > >Clinton-Gore administration, loggers got the green light on the > > >Pacific Northwest, bringing the spotted owl closer to extinction. In > > >addition, environmental regulations of the Environmental Protection > > >Agency began to be peeled away. > > > > > >A supposed proponent of civil rights, Gore entered Congress with a > > >campaign against gun control, abortion, and homosexuality (which he > > >considered "abnormal sexual behavior"). We are supposed to believe > > >that he is a defender of abortion, yet his voting record has been 84% > > >against abortion. He opposes Supreme Court justices like Antonin > > >Scalia and Clarence Thomas, yet Gore as a Senator voted for Scalia, > > >and Lieberman strongly endorsed Thomas. > > > > > >I refuse to vote for the Lesser of Two Evils (or second worst) and > > >instead choose to vote for the best ticket: Ralph Nader & Winona > > >LaDuke, individuals reflecting honesty, progress, and justice. In a > > >state such as Illinois which is not a battleground state, if you don't > > >desire the status quo, a vote for Bush or Gore is a wasted vote. > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Nader-uiuc mailing list > > >Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > > >http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nader-uiuc mailing list > > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > > > _______________________________________________ > Nader-uiuc mailing list > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > From ieyman at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 14:12:24 2000 From: ieyman at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Ilan Eyman) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] letter to the editor In-Reply-To: <39E71F07.534CD056@cs.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: My Dad has a copy, he is volunteering at the office lately, but can be reached at home at (217)-384-7987 Ask for Jim. Ilan Ilan Eyman www.lis.uiuc.edu/~ieyman On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Kay Connelly wrote: > Does anyone have Nader's interview on Charlie Rose? I would > love to have it... but PBS charges $30 or $40. > > Kay > > Jim Buell wrote: > > > > Way to go, Arun. Dare 'em to print it! > > > > By the way, I have a master VHS copy of Jeff St. Clair's talk (2 hours) at > > Channing-Murray last weekend. It's in the Prairie Greens office. I also > > have most of the Chicago Rally on video - again, filled a 2 hour tape. > > Anyone who'd like a copy can call the Greens office (355-5001) and get > > their name on a request list to get a copy made. We'll look for a nominal > > donation ($5 or so) for each copy we make. Better still, anyone who's got 2 > > VCRs can arrange to borrow a master copy in exchange for making a copy or 2 > > from it for us. > > > > Jim > > > > At 09:31 PM 10/12/00 -0500, Arun Bhalla wrote: > > > > >I wrote up this letter tonight and sent it off to the DI and News-Gazette > > >(perhaps also the Tribune). I agree with Jim that we need to write letters > > >demanding coverage of Nader in our local media, given the bland debates > > >and popular demand to see Nader in the debates. I didn't have room to > > >fit it in my letter, and I figured the News-Gazette editors would edit > > >it out of my letter "for space." They've done it before. > > > > > >cheers, > > >Arun > > > > > > > > >To the editor: > > > > > >After the recent visit of Jeffrey St. Clair in support of his book _Al > > >Gore: A User's Manual_ written with Alexander Cockburn, my distrust of > > >Al Gore has deepened. Gore has shown himself to be a man of > > >half-truths and false promises. > > > > > >Although he claims to have seen combat in Vietnam, he was actually an > > >army reporter with a security escort and spent most of his time > > >drinking beer, smoking dope, and playing basketball. > > > > > >Some wrongly consider him the nation's foremost voice of > > >environmentalism. The League of Conservation Voters rated Gore's > > >voting record at under 66% in agreement with their environmental > > >positions, far less than even some Republicans. More than once, Gore > > >sought exemption from the Endangered Species Act, such as with the > > >utterly useless Tellico Dam on the Little Tennessee River. During the > > >Clinton-Gore administration, loggers got the green light on the > > >Pacific Northwest, bringing the spotted owl closer to extinction. In > > >addition, environmental regulations of the Environmental Protection > > >Agency began to be peeled away. > > > > > >A supposed proponent of civil rights, Gore entered Congress with a > > >campaign against gun control, abortion, and homosexuality (which he > > >considered "abnormal sexual behavior"). We are supposed to believe > > >that he is a defender of abortion, yet his voting record has been 84% > > >against abortion. He opposes Supreme Court justices like Antonin > > >Scalia and Clarence Thomas, yet Gore as a Senator voted for Scalia, > > >and Lieberman strongly endorsed Thomas. > > > > > >I refuse to vote for the Lesser of Two Evils (or second worst) and > > >instead choose to vote for the best ticket: Ralph Nader & Winona > > >LaDuke, individuals reflecting honesty, progress, and justice. In a > > >state such as Illinois which is not a battleground state, if you don't > > >desire the status quo, a vote for Bush or Gore is a wasted vote. > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Nader-uiuc mailing list > > >Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > > >http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nader-uiuc mailing list > > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > > > _______________________________________________ > Nader-uiuc mailing list > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > From mepstein at uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 15:03:22 2000 From: mepstein at uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [Prairiegreens] Re: [SfN] Large Caravan going to protest debates in St. Louis on Tuesday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, daria karetnikov wrote: > Hey, everyone! We (Students for Nader) are planning to leave at > around 2:00 from here to go to the rally, unless of course, you can > leave at 12 and go with the caravan. If you were planning on going > with us, but you would like to leave with the caravan, please let me > know of the changes. [ ... ] I'm interesting in heading down to St. Louis for this. At this point, it doesn't really matter whether it's at 12 or 2. I'd prefer to hook up with a group with space in their car, but I could drive myself and take a few others (the back seat might be a little cramped though :-). Milt Epstein Research Programmer Software/Systems Development Group Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) mepstein@uiuc.edu From zarate at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 13 20:20:55 2000 From: zarate at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (zarate martha) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Salsa Fundraising tonight Message-ID: RALPH NADER CAMPAIGNERS If today Friday night you're still checking your e-mail, drop it and come to salsa dancing at the dancing at the Channing Murray Foundation dance, dance, dance. A modest entry fee $3.00 enjoy the music and eat delicious baked goodies, tortilla chips, salsa and drinks. Sign a petion for the U'wa people in Colombia who are crisis. Their is is being drilled by Occidental pretroleum and the Colombian military. Stop looking at your e-mail and come to dance! martha csn member From varel at students.uiuc.edu Sat Oct 14 03:44:54 2000 From: varel at students.uiuc.edu (steven paul varel) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Census Bureau Stats on Econ. Inequality Message-ID: Hey everybody, I came across a rather stubborn Gore supporter today on the quad, and we got into quite a debate. During the conversation we disagreed on topics such as the effects of welfare reform, the role of trickle-down economics, the economic condition of the social democracies in Western Europe, and the trends in income inequality in the US. It was his position on this last issue that motivated me to check the situation out myself. He claimed that economic inequality had decreased since 1995 as a result of lower unemployment caused by policy supported by the Clinton/Gore administration. I thought you may be interested in what I found. I went to the Census Bureau's website at www.census.gov. The Census Bureau uses two measures to judge income inequality: the Gini ratio and the % of income by quintiles. Both of these indicate increasing income inequality since 1995. Just in case anyone does not know, the Gini ratio is a method of measuring inequality which rates the amount of inequality from 0 to 1, 0 being perfect equality (a situation in which all economic resources are distributed evenly) and 1 being perfect inequality (a situation where all resources are concentrated in the hands of one person and no one else has anything). The Gini ratio has increased form .399 in 1967 to .457 in 1999. It has increased steadily since 1980. During the Reagan administration it increased from .403 to .427, an increase of 24 points. When the Clinton/Gore administartion took over in '92, the Gini ratio was .434; and the latest recorded data on the Gini ratio show that in 1999, after seven years of a Clinton/Gore white house, the Gini ratio has increased 23 points. This shows the Clinton/Gore administration to be as bad the Reagan era. In addition, the Gini ratio has increased seven points since 1995. The other method of measuring inequality used by the Census Bureau involves dividing the population into fifths or quintiles and measuring the % of aggregate income recieved by each fifth. This measure shows similar increases in income inequality. In 1967 the bottom fifth received 4% of the overall income, the second fifth got 10.8%, the third fifth got 17.3%, the fourth fifth got 24.2%, and the top fifth got 43.8%. During the Clinton/Gore administration, the bottom fifth fell from 3.8% to 3.6%, the second fifth from 9.4% to 8.9%, the third from 15.8% to 14.9%, the fourth from 24.2 to 23.2, and the highest fifth rose from 46.9% to 49.4% of the total income with the top 5% rising from 18.6% to 21.5%. There were also decreases in every quintile except the top one in the period from 1995 to 1999. Is the increase in inequality recorded in these two measures statistically significant? Well, I think the jump in the Gini ratio from 1992 to 1999 must be. As for numbers that show a decrease in the income share each of the bottom 4 quintiles coupled with an increase in the income share of the top quintile, I think that the 3% increase in the top five percent must be seen as statistically significant. Since this group must have taken this 3% from somewhere, it is reasonably to conclude that the bottom four quintiles must have decreased in income share at some significant level. As for the data showing the increasing inequality from 1995-1999, it is difficult to tell if this represents much real change. It is difficult to measure the extent of change in such a small time period with these measures. It really does not matter whether there was a significant increase, however, in order to show that there definitely was not a decrease. It would be very difficult to make a case for decreasing income inequality during the Clinton/Gore administration or during the period from 1995-1999 using this data. Is this data biased somehow? It seems doubtful that the Census Bureau data would be biased in such a way that it would show greater income inequality. The Census Bureau is an established, highly reputed organization that uses the best statistical methods available. So what explains the fact that income inequality has risen (or at least, not decreased) when unemployment has supposedly decreased over the period from 1995-1999 (I say supposedly because I have not checked any specific sources for this information, but I have heard it enough from seemingly reliable sources so I assume it is true, but this can sometimes be a dangerous assumption)? I think the answer to this question lies in the structural shifts in the US economy. Over the last few year the US has undergone a process of deindustrialization due largley to globalization and the rise of the multinational corporation which has caused a lost of many middle class jobs to countries where corporations can find cheaper labor and less taxes. With the decreasing in industrial jobs, there have been a growing number of jobs in the service and technology sectors. Technology sector jobs are usually upper middle class positions with good pay, whereas service sector jobs typically pay $5-10 an hour. Since the service sector is increasing more rapidly than the technology sector, wages for most workers are generally being driven down. This leaves the upper class taking advantage of free trade while the middle and lower classes are slowly losing ground. But isn't it true that real income by household has been rising at all levels even though it has been rising faster at the upper end? Well, this trend was occurring for years, every while real wages were decreasing. One reason for this is the fact that women have increasingly joined the workforce over the last few decades. Thus, in any given household, it is more likely that there are two people working in the family. If this is considered, the income trends seem quite alarming since real income by household has only increased slightly at the lower levels. Two people are now making little more than one person used to. In addition, it seems that real income by household may be on the verge of falling at the lower levels for the first time in decades because of the fact that the increase in service sector jobs has been more rapid than the increase in technology jobs. This is why I am sick of hearing about all of the economic prosperity that the democratic platform and its supporters continue to go on and on about. The increasing income inequality will only continue to increase the wealth inequality. Several times I have heard Nader quote the statistic that 1% of the population owns as much wealth as the bottom 95%. Why are there even people talking about how great the economy is? I think part of this can be explained by the fact that Americans have always accepted a high degree of inequality due to historical, cultural, and religious processes of legitimation of inequality. This may be why a large potion of the economists today only consider certain economic indicators such a Gross Domestic Product in determining if the economy is doing good. I guess it depends how you define a good economy: by the GDP or by the amount of equality it allows. It seems that some sort of balance between the two might be desirable, but what kind of balance. I think one way to gain more information on this topic is to look at Western European social democracies. This is where I must stop because I do not know enough about the economic situations in these countries in terms of GDP or amount of inequality. I also do not know what different variables might come into play that may have an effect on their economic and social success that are separate from public policy (such as historical trends, culture, etc.). Anyway, a lot of you probably already know this stuff. I think I did this more for my self than for the purpose of getting out the information. I just needed to confirm some stuff I already knew (at least as well as you can know anything, which is to say not very well as the philosophical body of thought called skepticism has shown us), but questioned for a moment when I was presented with data that now seems largely false. I hope you found some of it interesting. Have a good weekend. From jbuell at uiuc.edu Sat Oct 14 10:17:01 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Census Bureau Stats on Econ. Inequality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001014084847.00aac2d0@students.uiuc.edu> Thanks Steven. That's very useful information. I was aware of the general shift in quintile percentages but hadn't heard of the Gini index. And as you point out, any slight gains in household income over the past couple decades are most readily attributed to the high percentage of two-income households; the low minimum wage is a scandal of course. I think your analysis is right on the mark - the so called economic boom is a boon for the wealthiest, and a sham for the rest of us. One thing I'd add - the structural shift from manufacturing toward low-skill service-sector jobs in this country has been accompanied by a de-unionization on a massive scale; without unions to use as a lever, workers lose ground in wages, benefits and conditions. That's why Nader's making the overturning of the 1947 Taft-Hartley anti-labor act a central issue in his campaign. Jim From jbuell at uiuc.edu Sat Oct 14 10:46:29 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] O17 rally/caravan plans in Champaign - please help! Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001014102702.00aaccd0@students.uiuc.edu> Would anyone interested in helping to plan for the local part of the Oct. 17 rally and caravan please meet up with us at 2 pm at the office (206 N Randolph, downtown Champaign, 355-5001)? We need to decide on where to hold the local rally, write up and send out press releases, and contact media people we know. In other words, a busy afternoon! Plans out of Chicago call for a group starting there to meet up with us here at 11:30 a.m. or so next Tuesday. We're to hold a rally from 11:40 to noon, then caravan out with them (those that are okay to leave at noon rather than at 2, as some students are) to Springfield and then on to St. Louis. To be decided: ** where to hold the rally in town. some ideas: * The quad or Alma Mater would be a good place, but cars need to be accessible and, ideally, visible so news cameras can use them for visuals. If there's just a few cars, they could go right down Green Street and park in the lot next to Kinkos. But if there are more than a few, they'd probably have to use the Assembly Hall lots and shuttle in - not good for timing or visual effect. * in front of county Dem and GOP headquarters. The Dems of course are right downstairs from the Nader HQ (I still love that), where parking is ok but not great; the GOP is at the corner of Green and Neil, just opposite the Osco where there's plenty of free parking. We'll need to check too on the legality of holding rallies in various spots - Champaign city vs on campus. ** what to do at the rally. I'm guessing some short speeches are in order, and maybe a bit of theater. We need to say who we are, where we're going, and why, and we need to tell off the 2 big parties for closing the debates to all but their own anointed. Costumes may be appropriate - e.g. Billionaires for Bush or Gore (got bits and pieces for 3 to 5 of these) and/or 'Mr. Clean' outfits to clean up the party offices (these can be real simple - white t-shirt, bald wig and maybe a curtain hook for an earring). Gotta keep the cameras happy! ** how to alert the media Once the above are decided, we'll need to fax out a press release to the local newspapers, radio and tv stations. (All their offices are closed Saturday afternoons, as I found when trying to hand-deliver notices of last week's office grand opening a week ago.) Then, early Monday morning, we'll need to follow up with personal calls/visits to contacts we've made with the media, i.e. reporters, editors and crews who've covered us to date. YOUR IDEAS AND ENERGY ARE ESSENTIAL TO PULLING THIS OFF. Like everything else, we're flying by the seats of our pants on this one, and on very short notice. The more energy we can throw toward this in the next 72 hours, the more of a statewide splash our 'Cross the State for a Real Debate' can make! Go we go! Jim B. From dapier at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 00:02:04 2000 From: dapier at students.uiuc.edu (jonny deformed) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] letter to the editor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: please take me off of this list. jarrett "i know blue eyes get boring, but i'll wear dark glasses all the time." go here now: www.votenader.org From karetnik at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 00:55:33 2000 From: karetnik at students.uiuc.edu (daria karetnikov) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Next Meeting Message-ID: Hey, everyone! Next meeting will take place on Monday at 6:00 pm in 192 Lincoln Hall. If you are going to St. Louis, please make it to the meeting, so we can discuss details, otherwise, e-mail me. Cheers, Daria From jbuell at uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 00:59:27 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: [NaderNews] Fw: [Sacnader] On C-Span: Gore tries to debate Nader on October 20 Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001015005639.00c1db30@students.uiuc.edu> It seems a debate is brewing among nearly all the presidential contenders. Cross yer fingers, folks - Ralph may yet get to share the stage with the Bushgore. Hmm, this Tuesday's 'Cross the State for a Real Debate' may turn out to be a celebration! Jim >From: "Pendragon" >Mailing-List: list NaderNews@egroups.com; contact NaderNews-owner@egroups.com >Delivered-To: mailing list NaderNews@egroups.com >List-Unsubscribe: >Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:34:33 -0700 >Subject: [NaderNews] Fw: [Sacnader] On C-Span: Gore tries to debate Nader >on October 20 > >On Friday, October 20, from 8:00 to 9:30 p.m. Eastern time, >Judicial Watch will host a nationally televised presidential >debate featuring six of the seven qualified presidential >candidates. John Hagelin, Al Gore, Ralph Nader, Pat Buchanan, >Harry Browne, and Howard Phillips have all accepted--only >George W. Bush has declined. > >C-SPAN has committed to televising the debate, and Fox TV and >American Voice Radio are considering coverage. The debate >will be moderated by a highly respected journalist, and the >panel will be composed of other journalists from well-known >national newspapers--both liberal and conservative. > >Seven lecterns will be set up on stage--no matter who attends >the debate. Each candidate will give an opening and closing >statement and will be asked questions by the panel in rotating >order. > >The questions, while not set in advance, will reflect Judicial >Watch concerns about ethics in politics--bribery laws, corporate >control of government, independent counsel issues, etc. > >About 600 people have been invited to the debate and to a >reception immediately following, including over 30 Ambassadors >and their seconds-in-command, as well as the entire Washington >press corps. > >We urge everyone to watch this debate, which certainly promises >to be the most interesting and representative presidential >debate of the season. As always, please check your local listings >for up-to-the-minute scheduling; TV and radio news stations >reserve the right to make last-minute changes. From kryczka at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 13:33:23 2000 From: kryczka at students.uiuc.edu (nicholas james kryczka) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] "off list.." In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20001015005639.00c1db30@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: Please remove me from this e-mail list. Too much!! I appreciate the info nonetheless. -Nick Kryczka From ejones at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 14:23:57 2000 From: ejones at students.uiuc.edu (emily claire jones) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Re: [Prairiegreens] "off list.." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: please remove me from your mailing list. From tocchini at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 17:35:57 2000 From: tocchini at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (tocchini luciane) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Re: [Prairiegreens] "off list.." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please remove me from this list On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, emily claire jones wrote: > please remove me from your mailing list. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Prairiegreens mailing list > Prairiegreens@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/prairiegreens > http://www.prairienet.org/greens/ > From bpeters at uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 18:24:00 2000 From: bpeters at uiuc.edu (Brian Peters) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Re: [Prairiegreens] "off list.." References: Message-ID: <000701c036ff$010159c0$64397e82@3gkzn> please remove me from this list ----- Original Message ----- From: "tocchini luciane" To: "emily claire jones" Cc: "nicholas james kryczka" ; "Jim Buell" ; ; Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 5:35 PM Subject: [SfN] Re: [Prairiegreens] "off list.." > Please remove me from this list > > On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, emily claire jones wrote: > > > please remove me from your mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Prairiegreens mailing list > > Prairiegreens@lists.groogroo.com > > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/prairiegreens > > http://www.prairienet.org/greens/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nader-uiuc mailing list > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > From bhalla at uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 18:51:18 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] unsubscribing Message-ID: <200010152351.SAA24034@a-night-at-the-opera.cu.groogroo.com> If you'd like to unsubscribe from the prairiegreens or nader-uiuc lists, point your browser at http://lists.groogroo.com/ Select the list you'd like to unsubscribe from. You'll have to input your email address on the second screen and then enter your mailing list password on the third screen. If you've forgotten your password, on the third screen you can also request the password be sent to your email address. It is very likely that the first email you ever received from these lists contained your mailing list password. (Note that your mailing list password is not the same as your network password. Thank you, and have a nice day! Arun From makhan at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 19:49:09 2000 From: makhan at students.uiuc.edu (:)) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey folks, Unfortunatly I wont be able to attend the meeting on monday as it is very close to the time I have to pray (I'm Muslim). Can any of u folks hook me up with the minutes of the meeting? Thanks! -muhammad a khan From bhalla at uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 19:52:34 2000 From: bhalla at uiuc.edu (Arun Bhalla) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Re: unsubscribing Message-ID: <200010160052.TAA24549@a-night-at-the-opera.cu.groogroo.com> Arun Bhalla writes: > > If you'd like to unsubscribe from the prairiegreens or nader-uiuc > lists, point your browser at http://lists.groogroo.com/ > > Select the list you'd like to unsubscribe from. You'll have to input > your email address on the second screen and then enter your mailing > list password on the third screen. If you've forgotten your password, > on the third screen you can also request the password be sent to your > email address. It is very likely that the first email you ever received > from these lists contained your mailing list password. (Note that your > mailing list password is not the same as your network password. Rose wisely points out that you can also turn on digest mode. This way, at the end of each day, you get all of the emails batched in a single email, instead of receiving each message separately as soon as they are sent. The directions are similar as above, but on the third screen, scroll down to the gray box and change the digest mode. In Naderness, Arun From shallora at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 21:39:22 2000 From: shallora at students.uiuc.edu (stephen bernard halloran) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:51 2004 Subject: [SfN] Let Ralph Debate Message-ID: I don't know if anyone saw this, but on Saturday Night Live this week, Thom Yorke, lead singer of Radiohead, held up a Let Ralph Debate sign. It was shown for quite a while. Then, other members of the cast proceeded to hold up the same sign. It looks like Nader fever has struck NYC. steve From jbuell at uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 23:34:12 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:52 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: the Big Ten Nader Fight Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001015233237.00c39100@students.uiuc.edu> ooooh, a challenge! is anybody scared? ;-) jim >Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:52:36 -0500 >To: hayest19@hotmail.com, jcharisc@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, jbuell@uiuc.edu, > a-watson2@nwu.edu, manisape%hotmail.com.newolf@indiana.edu, > davidm@mps.ohio-state.edu, palmerL@umich.edu >From: Paul Stoy >Subject: the Big Ten Nader Fight >Cc: corey@votenader.org, pcstoy@students.wisc.edu > >Other Big Ten Ralph Nader campus coordinators, > >Competition/animosity has been the driving force that has kept us friendly >rivals for over a century. Because of our ingrained, cultural desire to >beat you, the University of Wisconsin Alliance for Nader/LaDuke (the U'wa) >is issuing an open challenge to the other Big Ten schools for a >competition on Nov. 7. The school who gets the largest percentage of >Nader votes in campus area districts wins, just like Wisconsin has won the >past 2 Rose Bowls. And we don't just want to win, we want to run up the score. > >So here's the challenge. The school with the highest percentage of >university-area Nader votes wins and gets bragging rights. The losing >school has to host a midwest regional meeting of progressive leaders to >help spread the message to their community. More detail can be added later. > >Any neccesary tricks are welcome. That's what electoral politics are all >about. We just handed out nearly 1000 youth oriented flyers at a >rave. focus: the drug war. Exchange ideas freely so everybody is on an >even playing field. Let's rock the campus vote. > >May the best school win. > >paul stoy >uw-madison campus coordinator >nader/laduke 2000 From eacruz at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 22:34:05 2000 From: eacruz at students.uiuc.edu (esteban andres cruz) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:52 2004 Subject: [SfN] TUES 17TH 8PM FREE 1HR SHOW/MR Mahieu added!!!! Message-ID: That's right folks. This special update is to inform you that Mr. Christopher John Mahieu himself will be bangin away at those ebonies and ivories yet ever so tenderly for the following performance: Esteban Andres Combo Tuesday October 17th, 8PM Rainbow Coffeehouse @ The Wesley Foundation on Goodwin & Green The Bad boys of bebop vs. the Crooner in the match of the century: Howlin on the mic is Esteban Andres backed with beats by Jeremy Noller and the slap happy rhythmic bass of Kels the wild child with special guest Kevin Hoover on trumpet. We are happy to announce the recent reunion of piano man Chris Mahiue to the quintet. This group will be swingin the standards from the forties and fifties as well as other popular songs from the Golden Age. Ringside only. From jperry1 at students.uiuc.edu Sun Oct 15 23:52:21 2000 From: jperry1 at students.uiuc.edu (joseph b perry) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:52 2004 Subject: [SfN] Fwd: the Big Ten Nader Fight In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20001015233237.00c39100@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: How are these votes tallied? Joe Perry Department of History University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign jperry1@uiuc.edu On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Jim Buell wrote: > ooooh, a challenge! is anybody scared? ;-) > > jim > > >Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:52:36 -0500 > >To: hayest19@hotmail.com, jcharisc@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu, jbuell@uiuc.edu, > > a-watson2@nwu.edu, manisape%hotmail.com.newolf@indiana.edu, > > davidm@mps.ohio-state.edu, palmerL@umich.edu > >From: Paul Stoy > >Subject: the Big Ten Nader Fight > >Cc: corey@votenader.org, pcstoy@students.wisc.edu > > > >Other Big Ten Ralph Nader campus coordinators, > > > >Competition/animosity has been the driving force that has kept us friendly > >rivals for over a century. Because of our ingrained, cultural desire to > >beat you, the University of Wisconsin Alliance for Nader/LaDuke (the U'wa) > >is issuing an open challenge to the other Big Ten schools for a > >competition on Nov. 7. The school who gets the largest percentage of > >Nader votes in campus area districts wins, just like Wisconsin has won the > >past 2 Rose Bowls. And we don't just want to win, we want to run up the score. > > > >So here's the challenge. The school with the highest percentage of > >university-area Nader votes wins and gets bragging rights. The losing > >school has to host a midwest regional meeting of progressive leaders to > >help spread the message to their community. More detail can be added later. > > > >Any neccesary tricks are welcome. That's what electoral politics are all > >about. We just handed out nearly 1000 youth oriented flyers at a > >rave. focus: the drug war. Exchange ideas freely so everybody is on an > >even playing field. Let's rock the campus vote. > > > >May the best school win. > > > >paul stoy > >uw-madison campus coordinator > >nader/laduke 2000 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nader-uiuc mailing list > Nader-uiuc@lists.groogroo.com > http://lists.groogroo.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/nader-uiuc > From jbuell at uiuc.edu Mon Oct 16 00:07:41 2000 From: jbuell at uiuc.edu (Jim Buell) Date: Sun Feb 8 03:46:52 2004 Subject: [SfN] O17 rally at Wright & Green Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20001016000010.00aba890@students.uiuc.edu> This release is being sent to the News-Gazette, Daily Illini, Octopus, WICD-TV 15, WCIA-TV 3, and WILL-AM. I hope everyone on these lists will be able to take part in the rally at Green and Wright this Tuesday at 11:40 a.m., and that as many as possible will join the caravan out at noon or travel with other Students for Nader people at 2 p.m. I'll be at the S4N meeting tomorrow night at 6 in 120 Lincoln Hall looking for people to help set up the rally and caravan carpool. Or give me a call at the downtown Champaign office anytime after 2 tomorrow afternoon - 355-5001. I've got B4BorG and Mr. Clean costumes and am looking for people to fill 'em. ;-) Also looking for empty, clean Bud/Busch cans and a green beachball for the 'Bud Bowl' mentioned in the press release. This is gonna be fun! Jim ----------- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Jim Buell, 217/390-6368 (mobile) Prairie Greens of East Central Illinois, 217/355-5001 (office) www.prairienet.org/greens/ Local Greens Rally on Green, Join Statewide Caravan to Protest St. Louis Debate CHAMPAIGN - Local supporters of the Green Party presidential ticket will join forces with their colleagues from across Illinois on Tuesday morning to protest the exclusion of Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader from the debate to be held in St. Louis. A statewide caravan of Nader supporters will get its start in Chicago on Tuesday morning, arriving at the intersection of Wright and Green Streets in Champaign-Urbana around 11:40 a.m. There, protestors will call attention to the exclusionary tactics of the two-party system and to the need for a grassroots democratic movement to take political control away from corporate sponsors and lobbyists and return power to voters. The Green Street rally will feature costumed activists portraying Billionaires for BushOrGore and Mr. Clean, participating in a "Bud Bowl" to satiri