[SfN] Gallup Poll
Jim Buell
jbuell at uiuc.edu
Sun Oct 22 09:47:39 CDT 2000
Very well put re the falseness of polls, Arun. BTW, your great letter re
the falseness of Gore's environmental record (with a plug for the
Cockburn/St. Clair book) ran today in the News-Gazette.
There's also an article in the same paper about a TV station poll out of
Chicago (sample size a few hundred) that claims to show a narrowing of the
Gore-Bush gap in this state, but I agree with you that these polls are
largely meaningless or worse.
jb
>Chicago Tribune's website's latest figures had Gore above Bush by 8
>points (47-39), but that figure is more than a week old. Chicago had
>85% supporting Gore. But polls are meaningless. They sample 1000 people
>to reflect 100 million, and they're only sampling "likely voters." I don't
>know anyone that's ever been polled, and I'm not sure I know anyone that
>knows anyone that's been polled. Only statewide polls matter in national
>elections due to the electoral system, anyhow, but those polls tend to be
>less accurate and less frequently conducted.
>
>I'm not sure if polling is good or bad for the Nader campaign. In a blind
>vote, perhaps all but the courageous would vote for Gore to keep Bush
>out of office. On the other hand, polls are necessary for those to vote
>for Nader if Gore leads by a "safe" margin.
>
>Polls are evil. Paul is exactly right that polls perpetuate the two-party
>system as much as any of the other devices -- corporations, corporate media,
>genetic memory, etc. Polls have people voting their fears, not voting their
>conscience. Media coverage of debates are just as silly; the major concern
>is always "who was the winner?" because that can sway some people's votes
>more than discussing issues. Of course, there's little to actually talk
>about in terms of difference of issues. I see this covered everywhere
>in the media. "Once again, the debates were a snooze as the candidates
>refused to acknowledge a substantial difference of opinion." It almost
>sounds like every reporter is voting Nader or not voting at all. It doesn't
>matter which of the two candidates get elected -- we're going to get roughly
>the same end result. The only difference is which corporations get served
>best in the end, and many corporations have hedged their bets on both sides.
>
>I don't trust Bush or Gore, I really don't know where they truly
>stand. Bush and Gore are both trying to sound like populist
>centrists, yet I know their records both show otherwise (really, they
>both fall on the same side), so who knows what to expect from either
>of them? Have you seen their campaign ads? They both say the same
>things. I really don't see what everyone fears about Bush. What's so
>worse about Bush than Gore? I want people to get past the partisan
>nonsense. A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote for the status quo, with
>minor tweaks either way. A vote for Nader is a real vote for change.
>A vote for Nader is a vote for the future. Four years of Bush (or
>four more years of Gore, for that matter) can only leave so much
>damage. But we need someone to think of the future. "How dare Nader
>run during such a close election!" When won't it be close? When will
>people give third parties the chance that they deserve? When else
>will the seeds for deep democracy be sown? When will the cycle be
>broken? "There's always next time" some Cubs fans might say. But
>there's no better time than now. In fact, it is the best time because
>there's so little to lose. Gore and Bush are so similar, it really
>doesn't matter how Nader's campaign affects the election. The choice
>between Gore and Nader is not as fuzzy as the choice between Gore and
>Bush. And a vote for Nader now buys us all four years closer to
>progress.
>
>A vote for Nader brings us closer to the badly needed 5% to make the
>Green Party a second party. A vote for Bush or Gore changes so
>little. What happens if Gore loses by a margin less than Nader's
>votes? Perhaps the Democratic Party then realizes to adjust their
>platform, and it's a win for us. Activism becomes stronger and more
>critical of Congress and the White House. What if Gore wins but Nader
>does not get 5% of the popular vote? We still end up with a
>conservative in the White House, some progressive organizations will
>become lax in their efforts, and the Green Party (or some other third
>party) will have to fight just as hard during the next four years.
>
>I'm glad that Nader & LaDuke are running for president. If not for
>them (and perhaps another third party), I would not be voting for any
>presidential candidate this year, and I'd have so little positive
>passion towards the race at all. Candidates need to earn their votes,
>and Gore sure doesn't deserve my vote.
>
>In solidarity,
>Arun
>
>
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